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2020.03.12 17:36 TheReWritesMedia Missed Connection

All I could do was yell in frustration as the train left the platform without me on it. My mad dash across the bridge had been for nought, and I was left sweating and angry on Platform 2 as the 17:40 to Lincoln chugged away from the station and sped around the bend. Had my train from Grimsby not been delayed at Habrough I would’ve made my connection in plenty of time. I dropped my bag and threw my empty paper cup at the ground, not thinking about how it made me look. As if to prove my point an old couple and a sleepy-looking teenage boy stared at me like I was a crazy lady, and I can hardly blame them. I probably should have taken the direct train but it was cheaper to change at Barnetby, and according to the conductor that was where I was.
I knew Barnetby was a small rural village but I was expecting the station to be bigger. This place only had two platforms, with the Information Desk and a glass-box waiting room indoors. There were a few metal benches and a pole-mounted station clock standing in the middle of Platform 2. The usual signposts denoting the station name weren’t present, but I trusted that the conductor knew the route well enough. After taking a few deep breaths I flicked my hair out of my eyes and lifted my bag on to my back. It wasn’t very big or heavy, just a small rucksack carrying my headphones, charger and whatever book I was reading at the time. The colourful stars pattern made it look like it was designed for someone younger, but it was cheap and did the job so I didn’t care. I turned and headed back over the bridge towards the main building, avoiding interacting with the few people there. The departure boards were above the Info Desk and I needed to know when my next train out of here was coming. Shuffling past a man in a grey suit and a young couple sharing headphones, I pushed through the double doors to what I guess could be called the foyer.
A middle aged woman with bobbed blonde hair sat behind the glass screen. She was more over dressed than a typical ticket desk attendant, with her lazily applied pastel pink eyeshadow and overly-white teeth. Maybe she literally dressed for the job she wanted, but it made her appear stuck up and off putting. When I approached, she remained slouched across her chair looking disinterested. Ignoring her, I checked the screen showing the names and times of destinations and departures. Much to my relief a train to Lincoln would be arriving at 18:05 on Platform 2, and there would be another one at 18:15 that would go through to Nottingham. Luckily I wouldn’t have a long wait here. Not only was the station small but it was pretty isolated too, and I didn’t want to spend even one hour stuck in a place where I couldn’t even get a £2 cup of coffee. The road outside was a long flat line, stretching out on both sides until it met the horizon. There was no sign of the town, only a wind turbine and three small houses a few miles away upon the hill. Other than that, there were just crop fields surrounding the station. It wasn’t as if there was somewhere to go out and buy a magazine from. I sat down in the small waiting room and texted my train times to my dad. He replied back with a smile-emoticon and “gr8. Will pick you up.” My phone’s battery was only at 68%, but that would probably last until I got home.
The only other people waiting there with me were a mum and dad with two toddlers, and a college-age girl in a hood resting a skateboard on her knees. There was a vending machine next to the door, but a paper sign stuck to the front said it was Out of Order. I took off my bag and relaxed into the grey plastic chair to idly flick through Twitter for a few minutes. A train pulled up to the platform and the small family got up and left. It was 17:55 so this one wasn’t my train, but I prepared to leave anyway. Lifting my bag by the handle, I got up and went back out to the platform. It was quieter now, the man I’d passed by and the old couple who’d watched my little tantrum were gone. The boy and girl were still there, huddled against the wall and not looking up from their MP3. I sat on the blue metal bench near the couple and messaged Dad again, “train nearly here see you soon x.” The battery icon was showing 42%, but I wouldn’t really need it once I got on the train. Before long it was 18:03 and I jumped up ready with my ticket in hand, even more eager to get back home. I watched as the station clock ticked round to 18:05 and listened out for that familiar horn. Staring in the direction I knew the train would come from I rocked back and forth on my toes impatiently. Why wasn’t the train showing up? Had there been a delay? Had there been an announcement? It got to 18:08 and the train still didn’t show.
Gritting my teeth in order to prevent another public outcry, I turned sharply and marched to the Info Desk.
The lady was staring into space until I knocked on the desk in front of the glass screen.
“Hi,” I said, “is the train to Lincoln delayed?”
She kept staring for a few seconds before blinking as if she’d just woken up.
“No.” She said. “It should be here soon.”
Trying not to sound forceful, I tried again “Are you sure? The board said it 18:05 and it’s way past that.”
This time she only nodded.
I slammed my hand on the desk a little too hard, “When is my train getting here?” I pleaded, “I need to let my dad know!”
At first she was just silent, before forcing a smile and saying “It should be here soon.”
I was about to ask her again, but gave up right as I opened my mouth. She was wasting my time.
Huffily, I hoisted my bag over my shoulders properly and trudged back to the platform. It was still warm out, and the dry heat was making my jeans stick to my legs. My hair felt dry and all I could think of was the warm bath I would take when I got home. The next train couldn’t get there soon enough! My phone buzzed in my hoodie pocket and I whipped it out in time to see a new message from dad, “Safe travels, see you soon.” I replied to let him know “train was delayed, will be on way soon” before switching the device off to save the last 36% of charge. There was a whistle and a metallic grind and my heart leapt in relief. I looked around to see a train that was pulling up to the opposite platform. Had I read the time wrong? Because it was 18:15 and this train was definitely not going towards Nottingham. Was the departure board broken?
Confused, I went back to try the lady at the Info Desk. Ms. Clueless was the same as when I last saw her, slumped over and staring lazily through the glass screen. The departure board was still showing times, but wasn’t listing any destinations. Gripping the edge of the desk I demanded answers from the nation’s worst rail employee, “What time is the next train to Lincoln? I need to know now.”
She gave a wide grin that looked fake, “It should be here soon” she said in a chipper tone, “what does the board say?”
The board remained blank. I gritted my teeth, “I think, it might be broken.”
She didn’t respond and carried on smiling at me.
This time I couldn’t hold myself back, “Tell me when the next damn train to Lincoln is!” I yelled “I need to know now, I have to get home now!”
She still didn’t react. Slamming my hands on the desk, I tried again “When is my next train? Do your job and tell me!”
She shrugged and said “I’m sure it’ll be here soon.”
Unable to take any more of her vague and useless drivel I stormed over to the waiting room, dropped back onto the chair and cried into my lap. This isn’t what I needed today. I needed a bath and a sleep in my old bed more than ever. At least this time nobody was watching me, the girl with the skateboard wasn’t there anymore. Maybe she got on the train that just left? The sun had started to go down by then, with the orange glow beginning to bleed into the sky. Drying my tears on my sleeve I pulled my phone out again, my dad would need to know that I might be here for a while. I switched it on to be met with the Battery Only 20% notification. I swiped it away, it would be enough for this text but possibly not any more. “Train is delayed, dunno when I’ll be back now.” Quickly I turned it off again in case that would help, and immediately began looking for a plug socket. The waiting room walls were almost entirely windows, and the only visible power outlet was behind the vending machine. There was no way I could reach that.
Giving up I zipped my phone back into my bag and went to stand out on the platform again. The station felt a lot more isolated now. The headphone couple were gone along with the sleepy-guy who’d been staring at me earlier. Had there been another train? They could have just left but it would have been a long walk into town, I hadn’t seen a bus or car go by for a while either. I sat back on the bench, staring eagerly at the bend in the track to the left. Hoping that, maybe soon there’d be a train coming around it to get me out of there. My eyes flicked between watching the tracks and checking the hands of the station clock. It was around 19:15 when it began to get a bit darker. The lights in the main entrance came on and the clock face lit up too. Even the lights in the houses in the distance switched on one by one. I had no idea why anyone would be living out there, miles away from the town or other people. What would they do in an emergency? Surely that wasn’t Barnetby. Instantly curious I fished out my phone again, aware that it would probably be for the last time that night. I switched it on to see it only had about 17% battery, but it was enough to let me open my Maps app. I tapped the icon that would make it jump to show my location but all it brought up was a blank space. Scrolling around didn’t bring up any place names or landmarks either. As the battery was low it was possibly glitching so I tried reloading the app again. But this time the “unable to find your location” message popped up. At this point I knew it was pointless to try again, so I just gave up and put the phone back.
The heat of the day finally began to fade and the evening chill was welcome to me. I still listened out in hopes for a train, but the air was quiet and dead. Nothing but the stirrings of birds and the low hum of the turbine from a few miles away. I covered my head with my hood and rested my face in my hands. All I could think about was dinner and my old bed which I couldn’t get back to soon enough. I could feel myself drifting off as I stared out at the fields again. My head kept sliding out of my hands and I’d snap myself back into focus. I must have been super tired because at one point I started seeing things. The tall crops started to look like waves and the lights in the houses turned off and on in what looked like a pattern. My sleepy daze was cut short by the sound of the heavy front doors scraping open. Curious, I looked around through the windows of the waiting room. Was someone else here to get a train?
With the lights all on inside, I saw a short man in a mustard-green canvas coat walk into the lobby. I was surprised to see another person show up so late. Had he walked all the way from Barnetby? Or maybe he was one of the people who lived on the hill? He bought a ticket from the lady and then came to stand out on the platform. His dull ginger hair was messy as if he’d been out in the wind too long, and his face was noticeably tanned too. He stood right on the edge of the platform with a noticeable slouch, and shuffled from one foot to the other every few seconds.
It was late and my interest in being around people was dead for the day. I hunched over my knees some more and hoped he wouldn’t stand near me.
Much to my dismay, the man in the green coat came and stood at the edge of the platform to the left of the bench I was sitting on. From this distance I could hear him either talking to himself or making some weird noises with his mouth. Wrapping my hoodie even tighter over my head I stared at my feet. Peeking up I saw that he was making a side-glance in my direction. I put my bag on my lap and pretended to be looking at something inside it; anything to avoid possible eye contact with this guy. I peeked up again and he was looking back at me through his straggled hair. I rummaged in my bag some more, even taking out my dead phone and acting like I was messaging somebody.
Clearly I didn’t seem disinterested enough, because the next minute he was standing beside the bench making a warm grin.
“Hey, nice bag.” He chuckled. “Bet that’s from somewhere fancy!”
I had to hold myself back from groaning and sounding rude, so I kept looking at my phone and shook my head.
He made an exaggerated frown and laughed again “Really? You seem like such a fashionista!”
Usually I’d tell him to screw off at this point, but it didn’t sound like he was being intentionally sarcastic. He was more like an embarrassing Uncle, and was making me feel just as awkward.
Holding my bag tight I looked up at him and forced a smile, “No, not me.” I said. This time I finally got a better look at his badly-tanned face. He had uneven freckles and his right canine tooth was missing giving him a goofy look. I tried not to laugh at him. I don’t think he could read body language, because he kept standing there trying to talk to me. “So, where are you going?” He asked, way-too enthusiastically.
I probably should have lied, but I’m not good at thinking on the spot. “My dad’s house” I told him.
He took a step back and I thought he was going to leave me alone, but he stood there and shrugged before saying “Aw, going home is nice. I’m going home too.” His tone and demeanour was more relaxed, however I still didn’t feel comfortable talking to him. I went back to messing with my bag as he started grabbing at the pockets of his coat. He pulled out a familiar looking orange train ticket and waved it towards my face. “Here’s where I’m going home to. I haven’t been there for a year.”
Reluctantly, I looked at what he was showing me. In bold black type it read STD, One Way, To Shroby. (I had no idea where that was.) The “From” section was blank. Surely that was a misprint, but before I had the chance to look at it again he snatched it away.
“That’s great” I told him, trying to sound positive, “Home is good.”
I hugged my bag, stood up from the bench and tried to shuffle back towards the doors before he could say anything else to me. But he gave me a pat on the shoulder and kept jabbering on. “Where are you going home to? Somewhere nice?”
Forcing a smile I spluttered out “Just back to Lincoln.”
He pursed his lips and tilted his head as if I’d said something cryptic that he had to decipher. Once again he began rummaging for something in his pockets. I was going to take my moment to get away from him but he pulled out a UK road map. It was fanned out and not properly folded, with a lot of tears at the edges. The front cover had been ripped off and a piece of lined note paper had been stapled on in its place. ‘Abel’s Map!’ was written along the top margin in red ink. Holding the map with both hands the man (who I’m guessing must have been Abel) let it flap down before folding it in half and thrusting it towards my face. “Look! Here’s where I’m from…” He was pointing at a big marker-pen circle that seemed to indicate the border where Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire and Leicestershire counties meet. I had to squint to see it in the low light, but I could faintly make out “Shroby” in small print next to the word HOME scrawled on in marker. Abel shook the map and poked at the circled area again, “Now you can show me where you’re from!” I shook my head and held back my hands in protest, why was he making me do this? It was his map, surely he could find Lincoln on it. I knew he wouldn’t leave me alone until I gave him an answer, so I took a look at the map and hastily pointed to the bumped-out headland between Scunthorpe and Boston.
“It’s around here” I said, rubbing my finger in a wide loop over that small area of the map.
He whisked the map away from my face and began closely inspecting the spot I’d pointed out,
“I’m not seeing it…” he started, but before he could finish I made my escape.
Backing away I eventually managed to get back through the doors and into the station building. It was noticeably warmer and I was thankful for that at least. Looking back through the waiting room I could see Abel walking around in a circle still looking at his old map. I’d probably seemed rude but I wanted to be away from the guy. I checked the departure boards again but they were still blank. The lady behind the desk was fiddling with a pen and didn’t seem to have noticed me. Despite being tired of pointless conversation I went to give the Info Desk one last try. Gently tapping on the glass I simply asked “Hi, what station is this?”
Ms. Incompetent snapped out of her trance, dropped the pen and looked at me again with the same old fake grin. “Where do you think it is?”
“Barnetby?” I groaned. Was she really going to keep this up?
The lady nodded.
I rolled my eyes and took a moment to collect myself. This time I decided to ask about something else, “When is the next train to Shroby?”
Her smile faltered and she looked as if she actually had to think for a second, “Where?” she asked.
Maybe she didn’t hear me properly so I slowed it down “Sh-roe-bee, you just gave that man a ticket.”
Instead of that smile her face morphed into a frown. The tone of her voice became less perky and she drummed her finger nails on the desk before saying “I’m sorry, I don’t know where that is.”
Letting out an irritated whine I dropped my bag and asked one last time “Can you at least tell me when the next train to Lincoln is?”
She bit her lip, shrugged and shook her head.
Shaking, I snatched up my bag and tried not to cry again. How could she possibly know this little about the trains? It was as if she didn’t even work there. I grabbed my phone out of my bag and tried turning it on, hoping I’d have some message from dad. The screen lit up for a second to show the dead battery icon before blinking back off. I clutched the device so hard that I’m surprised I didn’t break it. It took all of my remaining self-restraint to not toss it on the floor like a disposable cup. With the last of my strength I stuck my phone in my pocket, grabbed my bag by the top handle and dragged myself back out to the cold, bleak platform.
It was fully dark now, aside from the glow coming from inside. Without any light pollution the sky stretched out endlessly in all directions, and the windows of the houses almost looked like the stars overhead. Hunched over, I trudged over to the far end of the platform to be as far away from Abel as I could get. I zipped my hoodie up all the way before dropping down on the hard concrete. The pole-mounted clock was as round and bright as the moon, showing 21:15. At this time would the trains even be running to a small station like this? Over the low whir of turbine blades I could hear heavy footsteps getting louder and louder. I didn’t need this again.
“You seem very down in the dumps.” Abel said, he was still loud but not as bombastic.
I didn’t even budge. Maybe he’d leave me alone this time.
“If it makes you feel better, I found you on my map!”
Once again he waved the tatty UK Pocket Roadmap in front of me, now Lincoln was clearly written on in big blue Biro letters across the area I’d pointed out.
“That’s good” I humoured him.
He sat down next to me and spread the map out on the ground. “I travel a lot” he enthused “I keep losing where I am so I write it on my map.”
I nodded and gave the page a quick scan, not only was the map faded and ripped but it was covered in scribbles from many different pens. He kept babbling on about what different lines were but I tuned it out. Resting my head on my knees I could feel myself zoning out again, his voice becoming a faulty radio signal dwindling in and out of focus.
A sudden nudge in the arm broke me out of my trance. Abel was grinning like a proud child and shaking his blue pen in front of my eyes.
“Look, look! I drew us!” he chirped.
Sure enough he was pointing to a spot on the map where he’d drawn two small stick figures, one with a backpack and the other with a big coat.
“That’s nice.” I yawned. “Looks good.”
He clapped his hands and blurted out “Not many people talk to me, you’re my new Train-Buddy.”
Abel then sighed and shrugged his shoulders, “I travel a lot but most of the time it’s like people don’t notice me.”
There was a moment of silence and I just tried to pull my least-awkward grin. Abel shuffled his feet again before finally perking up
“Here!” he said, pulling his Biro from his coat pocket. “Take this!”
He held the pen out towards me, shaking it around like he’d done with the ticket.
Hesitantly I reached out, took it from his hand and put it in the front pocket of my bag. I stammered out a “thank you.”
Abel stood up again and I managed to follow suit. My body was cold and felt like a rusty machine and I clumsily stretched my aching legs and tried to regain balance. Through the stale air a sharp whistle could be heard and I immediately warmed with joy. A train! With a rush of pistons and the chug of wheels, two brilliant headlights beamed around the bend as my way home came into view. The small screen on the front clearly read LINCOLN. It was 22: 43 but at least it was here! Abel and I stood back as the train whirled to a stop, all the way along Platform 2. The double doors of the carriage clicked open inviting me inside and I pulled my bag back over one shoulder. “Goodbye Train-Buddy,” said Abel, “Get home safe!”
I shot him a half-smile before taking that stride into the warmth of Carriage B, and quickly sitting down in the nearest empty window seat. As I expected, he was standing there beaming and waving at me. I returned the gesture as the doors closed and the train prepared to move on again. The lights in the station building were off and I could only faintly see the shadow of my Train-Buddy as the wheels began to tug the train forwards. The silhouette of the wind turbine still loomed over the horizon, making a dark space in front of the stars. As the train set into motion I took one last look at the houses on the hill, but the lights weren’t on anymore. While speeding away from Barnetby, it was as if it wasn’t even there. I lay back in my seat, so glad to be comfortable at last.
The conductor came by to check the tickets of the few other passengers, but luckily he left me alone. I must have fallen asleep because the next thing I remember about the journey back was waking up as my pocket buzzed. I jolted awake and whipped my phone out so fast that I almost dropped it. New Message from Dad, “Where are you???” I swiped to reply and saw that he’d sent me multiple messages in the past few hours, “What time is train? Do you want lift?” and “When you getting in?” Fumbling I managed to reply, “Train was late. On way back now. Would like a lift.” Before I clicked it off again I noticed that the battery had recharged itself all the way back to 76%, a lot more than I thought it was able to. I zoned out for most of the way back, drifting off watching the lights of passing towns and cars whiz in and out of view through the window. Eventually the train pulled into a small station, fully lit with street lights which woke me from my daze. The white signpost clearly said “Barnetby.” This wasn’t the same station I’d come from, so where had I been? I must have gotten off at the wrong stop.
Some passengers left and I waited for the conductor to walk past again before getting his attention and asking “Hey, where was the last station?”
He took a quick look at a printed timetable before answering
“Well luv, that was Habrough we just came from and it’s Market Rasen next.”
I thanked him as he went back to checking the tickets of the new passengers. The conductor on the last train must have told me the wrong stop, I realised. But, where had I been then? Staying awake on the way back was a struggle but at least I knew the rest at the other end would be worth it. After what felt like a life’s journey I was stumbling out on to the platform at Lincoln Central into the familiar arms of my dad, calling out “Welcome home Sal!”
Everything else that had happened that day felt like a dream as I buried myself in my old purple duvet and dropped off to sleep like a log that night. I didn’t wake up until 10:22am the next day. The lie-in was great and I actually felt alive again. My bag and hoodie were hung on my computer chair, and a cup of fresh tea was waiting on the desk next to them. Slowly rolling out of bed I got up and went to pick up the cup. As I got to the desk I realised that my mobile was still hanging out of the hoodie pocket. Its battery was fully dead so I went into my bag to get the charger for it. Sliding my hand into the bag’s pocket I felt something thin and plastic. The pen. I pulled it out and placed it on the desk. It was only a standard blue biro, half used up with a lightly chewed cap. But it felt like a foreign object that didn’t belong here, as if it shouldn’t exist away from its owner. I’d almost forgotten about Abel, he didn’t seem real now that I was fresh and fully awake. My mind snapped back to the last time this pen was used, when he drew us on to that big map of his. He’d put us at the station, but where had that actually been?
Immediately curious, I set about fetching the charger and getting my phone working again. I needed to look this up. After around fifteen minutes it finally had enough juice to stay switched on. Hastily I loaded up the internet and fumbled at the touch-screen keypad. Bringing up Google Maps I searched for “Grimsby,” it loaded slowly but as soon as it did I zoomed in to find the railway. Scrolling along I followed the stations that I knew were on that route: Healing, Stallingborough, Habrough, all the way through to Barnetby. No matter how much I zoomed in or scrolled around the screen I couldn’t find a station on the line between those last two. But I knew there had to be. Unless the second conductor had also given me the wrong station names? That had to be the case, right? I’d been frustrated and tired that night, so maybe I’d gotten confused somewhere. I was about to drop it and accept my mistake, but I remembered one last thing. Clearing the search bar I typed in a new place name. “Shroby.” The screen took a few seconds to load but when it did, it didn’t jump to a new location. I wasn’t being shown the border of the three counties, only the black bar saying “No results found for your search.” I refreshed the page but it didn’t change. How was Shroby not on their map? Abel had a ticket to go there! Frantically I tried a broader web-search but the only results I could find for “Shroby” were people and not places. I looked up road maps and county maps but the town didn’t seem to exist on any of them. If this town wasn’t in the UK then where was Abel’s map from? And where was he going? What bothered me the most though, is where did I meet him?
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2019.04.02 04:48 brokencrayonbits Race Report: Around the Bay Hamilton (30 km)

TL;DR: It was cold
Well this was my second ever 'big' race. I'd run the Toronto Waterfront Marathon back in October for a time of 4:29:52 which I was quite happy with as I'd held a really consistent pace the whole race. It was unseasonably cold and snowing that day in October so I nervously watched the weather forecast thinking that of course it wouldn't be unseasonably cold and snowing again, right? Wrong. I woke up to see a fresh sheet of beautiful white snow glimmering on the lawn and groaned audibly. Oh well. It is Canada after all, we all have to find our joy in cold weather running at some point. Anyways it was only like -2 (celcius) could be worse!
Training: I did the Hal Higdon Novice plan for my marathon in the fall and that paid off well for me. Unfortunately this go around I'd had less time to train. My work schedule was bananas and I am kind of wussy about winter weather and my phone has a habit of dying in like half an hour when it's cold out and I can't run without my podcasts! clutches pearls. So I'd run about 3 8-10 km runs per week with a handful of long runs in there but none really exceeding 22 km or so. The area I live in is pretty hilly so I tried to incorporate some hills into my training but truthfully I did most of my winter running on the treadmill while watching "Fuller House" and other campy sitcoms on Netflix.
Goals:
A. Under 3:30 - Yes!
B. Actually be able to walk after the race this time - Yes!
C. Run up the big hill like a total badass - Nope
Before the race I drank some fancy fruity starbucks beverage and ate 3 "fun size" mars bars which seemed like a breakfast fit for any champion. I hung out in the Starbucks by the starting line because I wanted to spend as little time in the cold waiting for the race to start as humanly possible. I knew my phone was going to die but fortunately my boyfriend lent me his MP3 player for the occasion which was well stocked with an eclectic mix of EDM and Christian rock. Not my typical style, but it ended up being just what was needed for the journey.
Km 1- 10 I waited until the elite crowd started running before making my way to the back of the line with the rest of the weekend warriors. Because I dallied in Starbucks for so long I was quite near the back actually, but I wasn't out to break any records anyways. I was really glad when we started running. But then I realized that my bladder was protesting the fruity Starbucks drink. Should have waited a little longer after drinking it before using the washroom. Oh well! The first 10km was lovely, and I actually warmed up enough to take off my light running jacket and run in just my long sleeve shirt. I probably was going a little too fast but I felt great. I was trying to enjoy the scenery and take note of what was going on around me but mostly just stuck with my favourite race pass-time of making up elaborate back stories for all the people running nearby. When I got to the first checkpoint I was thinking about how totally fun and painless those first 10 km had been. But my one knee was giving me a little trouble so I decided to slow down a bit.
Km 10-15 It was a lot of fun watching the relay racers trade off at the 10km point and there were lots of brave spectators out there cheering everyone on in spite of the cold! It was really encouraging! I found the 3:10 pace bunny and decided to follow for a bit. I was still feeling really good and having a good time running. It wasn't snowing anymore but it was a little breezy so I put my jacket back on. It seemed like not much time passed before the 15km relay folks were passing off to their teammates and another cheerful crowd of spectators was there to encourage us!
Km 15-20 I think somewhere here we passed under some sort of giant bridge thing that was showering us with cold water. That wasn't any fun. But I was still feeling pretty good. My legs were getting a little tired and my chest was feeling a little tight but not too bad. I continued to follow the 3:10 pacer. I was wondering if the end was going to be as bad as everyone had told me. I remembered my goal to run up the giant hill and thought about maybe only running up half of it...
Km 21-26 At the km 21 mark I thought about how neat it was to be finishing a half marathon and how I still felt pretty good actually. Why, if the next bit was like this part I was going to be just fi- .... oh wait, there's a hill. It wasn't a big hill but it was enough to knock me out of my hubris. So that's when I officially Stopped Having Fun. My chest started getting really tight and my diaphragm was hurting. Stupid cold air. I slowed down at the rest stations and rested a little longer after drinking in hopes that would help with my breathing. It didn't. We passed km 24 and started running steeply down. It was a nice recovery for my lungs but I knew this was the sucking sound you hear when the ocean is drawn out to sea before the tsunami hits. As we rounded the corner I took one look at the hill and decided today was not going to be my day to be a total badass. I figured if I ran up that hill I would likely wear myself out and spend the rest of the race walking. So I power walked up the hill, everyone passed me and I felt lame. I remembered the grim reaper everyone had talked about and promised myself I would at the very least not show weakness in front of that guy!
Km 26-30 At km 26 my bladder reasserted itself. I told myself sternly I could make it four more kilometers for goodness sake! I was really starting to suffer at this point. It was my breathing. My chest felt really tight and breathing was really painful. I kept shuffling forward but could tell I'd fallen way off my pace. I ran into the reaper around km 27 and tried to perk myself up and look chipper. It worked, I didn't get dragged off into the graveyard this time. The part of me that wasn't suffering did enjoy the funny signs. The final rest station approached at km 28 and I decided that my bladder couldn't wait for the last 2 km after all. It was a shame to add an extra couple minutes to my time, but better that than the alternative. This is what you get for having four kids in 6 years. Anyways after that I was totally miserably exhausted. The only way to get to the end was to vigorously shame myself, so shame myself I did. "Come on you pathetic whiner! Only totally wusses walk the last two kilometers! Do you want everyone to think you're lame?" So I shamed myself and ran unhappily and kept shuffling forward while energetic people who had saved something for the end passed me. I didn't really pick up my pace until I could see the entrance to the building. I tried to look somewhat cheerful as I crossed the finish line because I'd looked so miserably pathetic at the end of the marathon and I wanted to look less pathetic this time. As it turned out though my sister and boyfriend didn't see me cross anyways since I was earlier than anticipated. Oh well, probably for the best I was likely pale and grimacing anyways.
Afterwards there was lots of food and I found that I could actually walk this time and didn't injure myself at all, so that was really positive.They were handing out free beers and I took a hard pass on that. Who runs 30 km then immediately drinks a beer? Someone with a stronger stomach than me, that's for sure. All in all it was a lot of fun, although it would have been nice if it hadn't been quite so cold!
My goal had been 3:30 but I finished with a chip time of 3:08 and change so I was pretty thrilled with that!
Splits
KM 0-10: pace 6:00 min/km
KM 5-15: pace 6:20 min/km
KM 15-20: pace 6:12 min/ km
Km 20-30: pace 6:36 min/km
Overall pace 6:17/ km
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2018.06.10 21:16 ExtraEater Everything we know about Cinematic (Post-Release Edition)

A little over 6 months ago I made a post to organize everything we knew about Cinematic at the time, and I continued to maintain the post as more information came out. The post was archived, but now that the full Cinematic experience has been released, I decided to make an upgraded version with even more information (including fan art and whatnot). If you've been following the sub for a while, you may have seen a lot of this already, so keep in mind that I'm just compiling it all in one place.

Owl City - Cinematic

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"About a year ago, I started working on a new Owl City album. I found myself writing about the magic of life…the amazing people I’ve met and the places that I’ve seen. Those songs make up my new 18 track album titled “Cinematic,” because just like the movies, life is full of magic."

Tracklist

Raw tracklist
# Title Length Other Commentary Lyrics Released
1 Fiji Water 4:20 Instrumental B L Dec. 1, 2017
2 The 5th of July 4:11 Acoustic B L Dec. 1, 2017
3 All My Friends 3:25 Music Video B L Nov. 3, 2017
4 House Wren 3:30 - - L June 1, 2018
5 Not All Heroes Wear Capes 3:46 Acoustic - L June 16, 2017
6 Montana 4:06 Acoustic B L Feb. 2, 2018
7 Lucid Dream 4:21 Music Video Instrumental B L Jan. 12, 2018
8 Always 4:36 - - L June 1, 2018
9 Cloud Nine 3:52 - B L Apr. 6, 2018
10 Winners Never Quit 3:39 - - L June 1, 2018
11 Madeline Island 4:36 - B L June 1, 2018
12 Be Brave 5:15 Acoustic B L Apr. 6, 2018
13 New York City 3:44 Music Video Instrumental B L Mar. 9, 2018
14 Firebird 3:59 - - L June 1, 2018
15 Cinematic 4:13 - - L June 1, 2018
16 All My Friends (Alt Version) 3:28 - - L June 1, 2018
17 Montana (Alt Version) 3:49 - - L June 1, 2018
18 Firebird (Alt Version) 4:30 - - L June 1, 2018
“The message I want to communicate with the release of Cinematic is simple: don’t stop believing in magic, even if everyone else does. Keep learning to see the beauty around you and embrace the ups and downs. I wrote this album because I believe those ups are worth celebrating.”

Fiji Water

New York City, New York
Our very first stop in Adam's life story is New York City, to where Adam took the seminal trip that made him famous. It's a humbling, reflective tale that provides a lot of insight into what it's like to be an ordinary guy who's offered the opportunity of a lifetime.
"Fiji Water is a song I wrote about the beginning of my career. I took a leap of faith and boarded a plane for the first time and arrived in New York City to sign with a major record company. When you listen to this song, I hope it leaves you with the feeling that life is full of things that happen for reasons you don’t always understand, but when you push yourself outside your comfort zone, sometimes it can change your life in positive ways that you could have never imagined."
Notes:
  • On the album cover, the water bottle says "BURSKY", which refers to Steve Bursky, his former manager from Foundations Music
  • On the Reel 1 cover, the water bottle says "2008" instead
  • The lyric "A good time was had by all" is a reference to his collaboration with Carly Rae Jepsen, "Good Time"
  • "Ocean Eyes is the idea that there is more to someone than meets the eye" ~Adam's description of Ocean Eyes on the website
  • Video of Katie and Abbey talking about this song
  • This

I laughed when I got back home, and I thought,

"There's no such thing as luck!"

The 5th of July

Ottumwa, Iowa
Our second stop is Iowa, where we're going all the way back to Adam Young's birth on July 5, 1986. Fit with the same fireworks as the Independence Day preceding it, Adam dedicates the album's first ballad to his family and the wonder of being alive at all.
"The 5th of July is a song about the day I was born. I’m fascinated with the idea that we all begin life on a certain time and day, but since we don’t remember the events of that day, we have to rely on the descriptions of the people who were there. I hope that when you listen to this song, it leaves you feeling thankful for life and for the parents who brought you into this world."
"I wrote this song to honor my parents. I wanted to tell them, 'Thank you for bringing me into the world and for loving me unconditionally.'"
Notes:

They loved me with all their hearts

Since the day I opened my eyes

On the 5th of July

All My Friends

Owatonna, Minnesota
Up next, we're in Adam Young's hometown of Owatonna, Minnesota, where he goes on a nostalgia trip to recall his treasured friends that helped shape who he is today. It's a sweet ode to friendship that even features some of his friends on the backing vocals.
"All My Friends is a song about the relationships in life that are rare. To me, the song is about my small circle of friends in junior high and high school that left a positive impact on me. My teenage years were carefree because of the amazing people in my life who were there for me. I recorded this song as a way of honoring the friends in my life I’ll never forget."
"I hope, that, as you listen to it, it also reminds you of the friendships you know you'll never forget."
Notes:
  • This was the lead single of Cinematic and arguably the first song in the Cinematic era (barring Not All Heroes Wear Capes).
  • Musically, it is noticeably different from the rest of his discography, mainly being pop rock with only a little bit of his original style
  • The song is inspired by Adam's love of country music, and draws influence from "artists like Jake Owen and Keith Urban"
  • This was the song Adam had the most fun recording
  • The gang vocals were recorded by Adam's friends
  • The mumbled quote at the very end is "Don't put Twinkies on your pizza", a reference to the movie "Heavyweights"
  • At 3 minutes and 25 seconds, this is the shortest song on the album
  • Comments from Adam about the music video:
    • "While I never stood on a corner and played guitar for passersby, I performed with friends in local bands at county fairs. I remember a time when making music professionally felt beyond my reach and thus, I have a deeper appreciation for what I do.
    • "It’s an extraordinary feeling to meet the gaze of someone you’ve never seen & feel a connection. The idea of introducing myself to a stranger was contrary to my personality, but I couldn't ignore the impulse. I followed my heart, & my life changed.
    • "When I was in college, I worked for Coca-Cola in a shipping warehouse. I was grateful for the job, but as an aspiring artist, I knew it wasn’t the right fit for me. The best day of my life was when I was able to quit and work on music full time."
  • Video of Katie and Abbey talking about the song (includes The 5th of July at the beginning)
  • This

We'll always be young at heart

And nothing's ever gonna tear us apart

House Wren

Iowa
It's summertime and the wrens are singing! For our next stop, we're visiting Adam's grandparents' house in Iowa, where the wrens live in the hollowed-out vegetable gourds that are hung out on the back porch. Like wrens searching for a home, we've all got to find our place in the world.
"House Wren is a song about the summers I would spend at my grandparent’s house in Iowa when I was a kid. My grandfather used to hang hollowed-out vegetable gourds on the back porch and the wrens would live in them. I found myself wondering what it would be like for a house wren looking for the perfect home."
Notes:
  • House Wren was one of the most anticipated songs from the album (see the pre-release polls later in the post). It was the most anticipated song that wasn't on any of the reels.
  • This

'Cause as far as I know

I am halfway home!

Not All Heroes Wear Capes

Owatonna, Minnesota
Up next, it's Father's Day, a time Adam celebrates passionately as evidenced by this thoughtful ode to his dad, Randy Young.
“Not All Heroes Wear Capes is a song about my dad. He loves cars, he can fix anything, he’s a man of few words and he’s my hero. I wrote the song because I can express myself better with music than with words, so I thought “I’m gonna write a song for my dad simply just to tell him I love him.” When you listen [to] it, I hope it inspires you to tell your dad: “Hey, to everyone else you probably seem like a normal guy, but to me, you’re a hero.”
Notes:
  • This was the earliest song released from Cinematic, released 5 months before the album was announced
  • "Not All Heroes Wear Capes" and "New York City" are the first Owl City songs to have a title that starts with the letter "N" (this doesn't count songs from side projects)

My dad's a hero to me

Montana

Glacier National Park, Montana
For our next stop, we're going on an adventure to the Big Sky Country, also known as Montana! Adam isn't writing about himself this time, but of Bill Olmsted, a treasured family member who took a trip to the state and found the place he wanted to stay forever.
"Montana is a song about an 82-year-old man in my family named Bill. When Bill was 15-years-old, he boarded a train in St. Paul, Minnesota and wound up in a small town near Glacier National Park where he fell in love with the Montana wilderness. I wrote the song because of the look of wonder I see in Bill’s eyes whenever he talks about Montana. I wanted to honor the story of a man who went on an adventure 70-years-ago and found his special place in the world."
"When you listen to Montana, I hope you feel the way I felt when I was writing it. I hope you feel inspired to live spontaneously, to go out there and face the great unknown, and if you haven't done it yet, to embark on your own adventure of a lifetime."
Notes:
  • Lyrics to acoustic version (transcribed by me)
  • Scrapped lyrics from the website: "And now you can run free, For all of eternity"
  • The chorus' chant "Get Lost in Montana" is a common phrase found in bumper stickers, water bottles, and other assorted items around Montana, often with a link to getlostmt.com, Montana's official tourism website
  • This is the first song on the album about Abbey's family (Bill Olmsted)
  • There are three versions of this song: The original, the acoustic, and the alternate version.
  • Geographical references to Montana:
    • Glacier National Park: While not explicitly mentioned, areas surrounding it or leading into it are referenced throughout the song
    • North Fork Road: A scenic, uncrowded section of Glacier National Park
    • West Glacier: An unincorporated community serving as the west entrance of Glacier National Park
    • Polebridge: A small community close to the northwest entrance of Glacier National Park
    • Rockies: The Rocky Mountains, part of which can be found in Montana
    • Big Sky country / Treasure state: Two common nicknames of Montana. The former is a reference to its seemingly open and unobstructed skylines. The latter is a reference to its "rich mineral reserves"
  • The song's length (in most services) is 4:06. The area code of Montana is 406
  • A snippet of the song with violin, drums, and background vocals and vocal effects only

Let your heart lead the way

Lucid Dream

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Our next stop isn't in the conscious realm... or is it? Inspired by the best flying dream Adam's ever had, his esteemed flying dream is turned into a real life musical fever dream of trance beats and towering, fantasy-infused lyricism that just takes your breath away.
"Lucid Dream is about the best flying dream I’ve ever had. During the writing of Cinematic, I kept a dream journal next to my bed, and one morning, I woke from one that was incredibly vivid. I wrote down exactly what happened, and that writing later became the lyrics to the song. Never stop dreaming."
"When you listen to Lucid Dream, I hope it makes you wanna close your eyes after a long day, drift off, and let your imagination carry you away."
Notes:
  • The song's genre is Trance, a little explored genre in Adam's other work. Adam has been worked with trance producers, including Chicane and Armin van Buuren
  • The "Black Rabbit of Death" is a reference to Watership Down, one of Adam's favorite books
  • The freight train is a reference to The Polar Express
  • The intro to this song samples The Hillary Step from his scores (1:09-1:38)
  • In an album full of more literal, direct lyrics about his life, Adam has said this song was intended to round out the album with a more abstract song
  • A snippet of the song with synths, background vocals, and vocal effects only

Life is a lucid dream

And that's how you study the stars!

Always

Owatonna, Minnesota
In the darkest of times, Adam turns to God in times of trouble. Our next song is a soulful ballad about the power of prayer and staying strong because God is always with you.
"Always is a song I wrote about my father’s struggle with chronic health problems. It’s about how God tells His followers: “Fear not, for I am with you.” I hope it reminds you that there is incredible power in the even simplest of prayers."
"Being raised in a family of faith, this is something I wanted to tell my dad ⎯⎯ to just hang on. There is a light at the end of the tunnel."
Notes:

Please remember when I say

I'm with you always

Cloud Nine

Cloud Nine, ???
Going up? Our next stop is the lush, proverbial paradise of Cloud Nine, another place Adam turns to in times of trouble. While the song is generally about keeping your head up in the face of distress, the song is also about meeting the love of your life.
"'Cloud Nine' is a song about learning to keep your head up, even when you feel like the entire world is doing everything it can to bring you down. I included three key changes in this song that give you a sense that you’re ascending at all times. After listening to this song, remember that nothing can bring you down."
"When you listen to Cloud Nine, my hope is that you feel like there's nothing on this Earth that can possibly bring you down."
Notes:
  • The first line, "Pull the moon down with a lasso", is a reference to the movie "It's A Wonderful Life"
  • The sound used as the synth lead is a manipulated recording of Abbey
  • This song features three key changes. The keys in each section are as follows:
    • Verse 1 - A-flat major
    • Chorus 1 to Verse 2 - B-flat major
    • Chorus 2 to Ending - C major (thank you -reggie- for the correction)

For the rest of my life

I'll be floating on cloud nine!

Winners Never Quit

Owatonna, Minnesota
It's time for a footrace, but this isn't just any old fable! Life is full of obstacles, but being patient and taking your time will ensure that you'll make it to the finish line.
"Winners Never Quit is about dealing with the struggles life throws your way. It’s about learning to be patient, knowing you WILL finish the race if you don’t give up. I hope this song inspires you to work hard and to enjoy the journey of life."
Notes:
  • The turtle on the artwork is a reference to the classic Aesop fable "The Tortoise and the Hare"duh

I'll give it all I got, I don't have a lot

But I know a little goes a long way

Madeline Island

Madeline Island, Wisconsin
Our next stop is Madeline Island, Wisconsin! Life may be an ongoing battle, but we all have to take a break sometimes. In this song, Adam and his family take a brief respite to go on the vacation of a lifetime and make a memory that will last forever.
"Madeline Island is a song about the best vacation I ever had. My parents, our dog Max, and I went camping on Madeline Island in Lake Superior in the spring of 2013. I wrote the song to make sure I never forget what an amazing time I had with my family. I hope it inspires you to take a break from the chaos of life and take a brief respite with the people you love."
"The four of us went there, and it was pretty uneventful. That was the point... It was so good to reconnect with my parents and to realize that I have an amazing relationship with them. Not everyone can say that. It made me feel so blessed and grateful when I was looking back. I wanted to honor my parents by telling this simple story of us going camping and enjoying nature."
Notes:
  • The melody from 0:30-0:44 reuses a part of The Deep South from his scores (0:44-0:56)
  • The ambient section from 3:58 to the end reuses parts of The Descent from his scores and Mr. Heartache, a SEKAI NO OWARI song produced by Adam Young (both are present from the beginning)

We made a memory

That will always last

Be Brave

Owatonna, Minnesota
Cinematic is all about cinema, so why don't we stop for a movie? Cinematic's longest song is a heartfelt, epic power ballad about the night Adam met his girlfriend, Abbey, through a life-changing decision to check out a midnight showing of a movie.
"'Be Brave' is about a midnight showing of a movie where I met my girlfriend. I turned around, and there she was. I wrote this song because the events of that night completely changed my life and I didn’t want to look back one day and not be able to remember every little detail. When you listen to this song, I hope it leaves you with the realization that you never know what could happen, even from ordinary nights at the theater."
Notes:
  • Lyrics to acoustic version (transcribed by me)
    • The only lyrical difference between this acoustic and the original is that the "Ok, I'll be brave" before the third verse doesn't show up.
  • The acoustic version was uploaded first on April 19, 2018 and taken down soon afterward. It was later re-uploaded on May 3, 2018.
  • At 5 minutes and 15 seconds, this is the longest song on the album by far. It's the only song longer than 5 minutes.
  • The "paper bird" is Abbey's business card, which she gave to Adam after he talked to her in the parking lot. The card had an illustration of an owl.
  • Abbey sings during the bridge
  • Adam reuses a section from "Return to Earth", a song from his Apollo 11 score, in this song (The oh's from 3:05-3:28 in "Be Brave", the riff from 0:25-0:45 in "Return to Earth")
  • This

In my hand I held a paper bird

And written on it were the words:

"Be brave"

New York City

New York City, New York
The journey's almost over, but we still have time to revisit the famous New York City! We're traveling back to the time Adam graduated high school and packed his bags for the outside world. Adam describes his first journey outside Owatonna as not just a glamorous road trip, but as an inspiring coming of age story.
"New York City is about the first time I ever really left my hometown and saw some of the world. It’s a coming of age story, and I tried my best to memorize all the little details as they happened. I hope this song inspires you to take a similar trip, maybe even get a little lost. I think you’ll be surprised at what you discover."
"When you listen to New York City, I hope you feel inspired to pack your stuff, jump in the car, take a trip, see the world, maybe get lost from time to time, 'cause I think if you do that, you'll be glad you did."
Notes:
  • In the music video, the main character ends up performing on a stage. This is the same stage where Adam films and records the acoustic videos.
  • In the final verse, there is a field recording of cars passing by. Adam got these recordings by crawling through the bushes near I-35
  • This was the first song (barring NAHWC) to be shown in a snippet, found in this Instagram post as an instrumental preview a few days before the announcement even came out
  • An instrumental version of the song was featured in the background of the album announcement
  • The artwork for this song is the only one that consists solely of inanimate objects
  • This song plays in the background of the "Life is Cinematic" website
  • "Not All Heroes Wear Capes" and "New York City" are the first Owl City songs to have a title that starts with the letter "N" (this doesn't count songs from side projects)

Travel light and see the world right

You'll never know if you never go

Firebird

Polebridge, Montana source
Our penultimate stop in this journey is where it all began. In this song, we're taking the focus off of Adam to look at Abbey's family and the strong relationship between her and her brother, Billy. Together, they journeyed through life on a scarlet red Firebird.
"Firebird is about a close relationship between siblings. It’s about how life changes quickly and how I don’t want to take anything for granted. I hope it reminds you that each and every moment is priceless."
Notes:
  • This is the second song on the album about Abbey's family (The first is Montana)

I wouldn't change a thing

'Cause everything changes

Cinematic

A galaxy far, far away
What a spectacular journey! I'd love to collapse on the bed, but it's just not a cinematic experience without a grand ending. Adam has spent nearly a whole year developing Cinematic as a gift to the fans. In the album's proper conclusion, he gives us inspiration and hope in the rest of our endeavors, so that one day we may do or make something as meaningful to us as Cinematic is to Adam Young.
"Cinematic is about the concept of a person’s life being viewed by an audience from another galaxy. It describes how life is full of magic if one strives to see it, and how we should all embrace our time to the fullest as if we are all making our own movies that will live on for eternity. I hope it encourages you to reach for the stars."
"I wanted a song at the very end of the album to sum up the tracks that had come before and that said to the listener, 'You just witnessed a few scenes from my life that I love, just a few stories I never want to forget. So, what does that mean to you? What are your movie-magic moments from your life?'"
Notes:
  • Adam cited this as the song that inspired the idea around Cinematic. It was the first song he wrote for Cinematic and one of the last.
  • Scrapped lyrics from the website: "Your raw talent is blowing our minds, The kids quote all your signature lines"
  • Cinematic is the first instance of a title track in an Owl City album
  • This is the only song on the album to be entirely in second person
  • Obviously, this song references Star Wars twice ("a galaxy far, far away" and "May the force be with you")

Follow your dreams

'Cause life is cinematic!

Alt Versions

15 songs just wasn't enough. The stories of All My Friends, Montana, and Firebird each get cast in the spotlight again in alternate versions. This time, the songs are stripped down and feature (even more) vocal contributions from various people in Adam's life.

All My Friends (Alt Version)

Owatonna, Minnesota
Notes:
  • Breanne Duren has a vocal feature on this track

Montana (Alt Version)

Glacier National Park, Montana
Notes:
  • Abbey has a vocal feature on this track (She sings "Heaven calls you home") [unconfirmed]
  • Bill Olmsted has several speaking parts throughout the song [unconfirmed]

Firebird (Alt Version)

Polebridge, Montana
Notes:
  • Abbey and Billy both have vocal features and speaking parts on this track [unconfirmed]

Other Releases from this Era

Promo EP's

  • Reel 1 (released Dec. 1, 2017)
  • Reel 2 (released Feb. 2, 2018)
  • Reel 3 (released Apr. 6, 2018)

Singles

Cinematic Tour

The Cinematic Tour is a 2018 tour across the United States and certain locations in Canada, Japan, and Korea. Most legs of the tour will feature special guests Matthew Thiessen and The Earthquakes. More details, including specific locations and times, can be found on the website.
Notes:
  • The tour's first performance is on September 13, 2018 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin
  • The setlist (Note: Most shows also feature a cover of Elton John's "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" before Be Brave)
  • The tour's last performance is on November 11, 2018 in Seoul, South Korea
  • Nope. The last performance is actually on November 24, 2018 in Guangzhou, China

SKIO Remix Contest

You can view the winners of this contest here

Reception

Subreddit Pre-release

See the old post for this section

Fan Work

Subreddit:

Other:

Note - Most of these are from tumblr blogs and blog names can change, so some of these names may not apply later

Other

Compilations

The Album Cover

The Reels/The Music Videos

  • Each reel has an overarching theme (speculation)
    • Reel 1: Beginnings
    • Reel 2: Following your dreams
    • Reel 3: Love and adventure
  • Reel 1, Reel 2, and Reel 3 are the first Owl City albums to not feature the words "Owl City" on the album cover (Not counting singles)
  • The only differences between the music videos and the Director's Cut is the presence of the title cards (Part 2/Part 3/The End) and the addition of an extra scene between All My Friends and Lucid Dream

Misc.

  • This is NOT Owl City's last album. Thanks to the AMA/Q&A sessions, you can expect more from Owl City, Sky Sailing, Port Blue, Goodbye Dubai, and the Adam Young Scores series!
  • Owl City Sheds Whimsy For Stunning Honesty On New Album, 'Cinematic' (interview with more of a look into the songwriting process)
    • "I hope people listen to this album and feel it's still the same guy from way back on MySpace who hasn't been corrupted by the industry."
  • Abbey and Adam's alternative song titles (Transcript)
  • Still not sure what makes this early announcement post relevant to the album
  • The Motor, an arpeggiated chord riff that Adam uses commonly throughout his work, is once again used constantly throughout this album (it can be found in House Wren, Winners Never Quit, Madeline Island, Firebird, and all three alt versions)
  • For anybody who still wants the previews, here they are.
  • Here's an old pre-order receipt
  • If you have any suggestions on what to add or if I got something wrong, please message me
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I hope this album leaves you with the idea that your life is like a movie and you are the star. You're going to run into critics, but you have an audience cheering you on. The stage is yours, so get out there, do your best, and remember to have fun.
Cinematic, in short, means this: Your life is yours to live, so live it well.
Break a leg,
Adam
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2017.09.30 18:08 TheRe_Writes Missed Connection

All I could do was yell in frustration as the train left the platform without me on it. My mad dash across the bridge had been for nought, and I was left sweating and angry on Platform 2 as the 17:40 to Lincoln chugged away from the station and sped around the bend. Had my train from Grimsby not been delayed at Habrough I would’ve made my connection in plenty of time. I dropped my bag and threw my empty paper cup at the ground, not thinking about how it made me look. As if to prove my point an old couple and a sleepy-looking teenage boy stared at me like I was a crazy lady, and I can hardly blame them. I probably should have taken the direct train but it was cheaper to change at Barnetby, and according to the conductor that was where I was.
I knew Barnetby was a small rural village but I was expecting the station to be bigger. This place only had two platforms, with the Information Desk and a glass-box waiting room indoors. There were a few metal benches and a pole-mounted station clock standing in the middle of Platform 2. The usual signposts denoting the station name weren’t present, but I trusted that the conductor knew the route well enough. After taking a few deep breaths I flicked my hair out of my eyes and lifted my bag on to my back. It wasn’t very big or heavy, just a small rucksack carrying my headphones, charger and whatever book I was reading at the time. The colourful stars pattern made it look like it was designed for someone younger, but it was cheap and did the job so I didn’t care. I turned and headed back over the bridge towards the main building, avoiding interacting with the few people there. The departure boards were above the Info Desk and I needed to know when my next train out of here was coming. Shuffling past a man in a grey suit and a young couple sharing headphones, I pushed through the double doors to what I guess could be called the foyer.
A middle aged woman with bobbed blonde hair sat behind the glass screen. She was more over dressed than a typical ticket desk attendant, with her lazily applied pastel pink eyeshadow and overly-white teeth. Maybe she literally dressed for the job she wanted, but it made her appear stuck up and off putting. When I approached, she remained slouched across her chair looking disinterested. Ignoring her, I checked the screen showing the names and times of destinations and departures. Much to my relief a train to Lincoln would be arriving at 18:05 on Platform 2, and there would be another one at 18:15 that would go through to Nottingham. Luckily I wouldn’t have a long wait here. Not only was the station small but it was pretty isolated too, and I didn’t want to spend even one hour stuck in a place where I couldn’t even get a £2 cup of coffee. The road outside was a long flat line, stretching out on both sides until it met the horizon. There was no sign of the town, only a wind turbine and three small houses a few miles away upon the hill. Other than that, there were just crop fields surrounding the station. It wasn’t as if there was somewhere to go out and buy a magazine from. I sat down in the small waiting room and texted my train times to my dad. He replied back with a smile-emoticon and “gr8. Will pick you up.” My phone’s battery was only at 68%, but that would probably last until I got home.
The only other people waiting there with me were a mum and dad with two toddlers, and a college-age girl in a hood resting a skateboard on her knees. There was a vending machine next to the door, but a paper sign stuck to the front said it was Out of Order. I took off my bag and relaxed into the grey plastic chair to idly flick through Twitter for a few minutes. A train pulled up to the platform and the small family got up and left. It was 17:55 so this one wasn’t my train, but I prepared to leave anyway. Lifting my bag by the handle, I got up and went back out to the platform. It was quieter now, the man I’d passed by and the old couple who’d watched my little tantrum were gone. The boy and girl were still there, huddled against the wall and not looking up from their MP3. I sat on the blue metal bench near the couple and messaged Dad again, “train nearly here see you soon x.” The battery icon was showing 42%, but I wouldn’t really need it once I got on the train. Before long it was 18:03 and I jumped up ready with my ticket in hand, even more eager to get back home. I watched as the station clock ticked round to 18:05 and listened out for that familiar horn. Staring in the direction I knew the train would come from I rocked back and forth on my toes impatiently. Why wasn’t the train showing up? Had there been a delay? Had there been an announcement? It got to 18:08 and the train still didn’t show.
Gritting my teeth in order to prevent another public outcry, I turned sharply and marched to the Info Desk. The lady was staring into space until I knocked on the desk in front of the glass screen. “Hi,” I said, “is the train to Lincoln delayed?” She kept staring for a few seconds before blinking as if she’d just woken up. “No.” She said. “It should be here soon.” Trying not to sound forceful, I tried again “Are you sure? The board said it 18:05 and it’s way past that.” This time she only nodded. I slammed my hand on the desk a little too hard, “When is my train getting here?” I pleaded, “I need to let my dad know!” At first she was just silent, before forcing a smile and saying “It should be here soon.” I was about to ask her again, but gave up right as I opened my mouth. She was wasting my time.
Huffily, I hoisted my bag over my shoulders properly and trudged back to the platform. It was still warm out, and the dry heat was making my jeans stick to my legs. My hair felt dry and all I could think of was the warm bath I would take when I got home. The next train couldn’t get there soon enough! My phone buzzed in my hoodie pocket and I whipped it out in time to see a new message from dad, “Safe travels, see you soon.” I replied to let him know “train was delayed, will be on way soon” before switching the device off to save the last 36% of charge. There was a whistle and a metallic grind and my heart leapt in relief. I looked around to see a train that was pulling up to the opposite platform. Had I read the time wrong? Because it was 18:15 and this train was definitely not going towards Nottingham. Was the departure board broken?
Confused, I went back to try the lady at the Info Desk. Ms. Clueless was the same as when I last saw her, slumped over and staring lazily through the glass screen. The departure board was still showing times, but wasn’t listing any destinations. Gripping the edge of the desk I demanded answers from the nation’s worst rail employee, “What time is the next train to Lincoln? I need to know now.” She gave a wide grin that looked fake, “It should be here soon” she said in a chipper tone, “what does the board say?” The board remained blank. I gritted my teeth, “I think, it might be broken.” She didn’t respond and carried on smiling at me. This time I couldn’t hold myself back, “Tell me when the next damn train to Lincoln is!” I yelled “I need to know now, I have to get home now!” She still didn’t react. Slamming my hands on the desk, I tried again “When is my next train? Do your job and tell me!” She shrugged and said “I’m sure it’ll be here soon.”
Unable to take any more of her vague and useless drivel I stormed over to the waiting room, dropped back onto the chair and cried into my lap. This isn’t what I needed today. I needed a bath and a sleep in my old bed more than ever. At least this time nobody was watching me, the girl with the skateboard wasn’t there anymore. Maybe she got on the train that just left? The sun had started to go down by then, with the orange glow beginning to bleed into the sky. Drying my tears on my sleeve I pulled my phone out again, my dad would need to know that I might be here for a while. I switched it on to be met with the Battery Only 20% notification. I swiped it away, it would be enough for this text but possibly not any more. “Train is delayed, dunno when I’ll be back now.” Quickly I turned it off again in case that would help, and immediately began looking for a plug socket. The waiting room walls were almost entirely windows, and the only visible power outlet was behind the vending machine. There was no way I could reach that.
Giving up I zipped my phone back into my bag and went to stand out on the platform again. The station felt a lot more isolated now. The headphone couple were gone along with the sleepy-guy who’d been staring at me earlier. Had there been another train? They could have just left but it would have been a long walk into town, I hadn’t seen a bus or car go by for a while either. I sat back on the bench, staring eagerly at the bend in the track to the left. Hoping that, maybe soon there’d be a train coming around it to get me out of there. My eyes flicked between watching the tracks and checking the hands of the station clock. It was around 19:15 when it began to get a bit darker. The lights in the main entrance came on and the clock face lit up too. Even the lights in the houses in the distance switched on one by one. I had no idea why anyone would be living out there, miles away from the town or other people. What would they do in an emergency? Surely that wasn’t Barnetby. Instantly curious I fished out my phone again, aware that it would probably be for the last time that night. I switched it on to see it only had about 17% battery, but it was enough to let me open my Maps app. I tapped the icon that would make it jump to show my location but all it brought up was a blank space. Scrolling around didn’t bring up any place names or landmarks either. As the battery was low it was possibly glitching so I tried reloading the app again. But this time the “unable to find your location” message popped up. At this point I knew it was pointless to try again, so I just gave up and put the phone back.
The heat of the day finally began to fade and the evening chill was welcome to me. I still listened out in hopes for a train, but the air was quiet and dead. Nothing but the stirrings of birds and the low hum of the turbine from a few miles away. I covered my head with my hood and rested my face in my hands. All I could think about was dinner and my old bed which I couldn’t get back to soon enough. I could feel myself drifting off as I stared out at the fields again. My head kept sliding out of my hands and I’d snap myself back into focus. I must have been super tired because at one point I started seeing things. The tall crops started to look like waves and the lights in the houses turned off and on in what looked like a pattern. My sleepy daze was cut short by the sound of the heavy front doors scraping open. Curious, I looked around through the windows of the waiting room. Was someone else here to get a train?
With the lights all on inside, I saw a short man in a mustard-green canvas coat walk into the lobby. I was surprised to see another person show up so late. Had he walked all the way from Barnetby? Or maybe he was one of the people who lived on the hill? He bought a ticket from the lady and then came to stand out on the platform. His dull ginger hair was messy as if he’d been out in the wind too long, and his face was noticeably tanned too. He stood right on the edge of the platform with a noticeable slouch, and shuffled from one foot to the other every few seconds. It was late and my interest in being around people was dead for the day. I hunched over my knees some more and hoped he wouldn’t stand near me.
Much to my dismay, the man in the green coat came and stood at the edge of the platform to the left of the bench I was sitting on. From this distance I could hear him either talking to himself or making some weird noises with his mouth. Wrapping my hoodie even tighter over my head I stared at my feet. Peeking up I saw that he was making a side-glance in my direction. I put my bag on my lap and pretended to be looking at something inside it; anything to avoid possible eye contact with this guy. I peeked up again and he was looking back at me through his straggled hair. I rummaged in my bag some more, even taking out my dead phone and acting like I was messaging somebody.
Clearly I didn’t seem disinterested enough, because the next minute he was standing beside the bench making a warm grin. “Hey, nice bag.” He chuckled. “Bet that’s from somewhere fancy!” I had to hold myself back from groaning and sounding rude, so I kept looking at my phone and shook my head. He made an exaggerated frown and laughed again “Really? You seem like such a fashionista!”
Usually I’d tell him to screw off at this point, but it didn’t sound like he was being intentionally sarcastic. He was more like an embarrassing Uncle, and was making me feel just as awkward. Holding my bag tight I looked up at him and forced a smile, “No, not me.” I said. This time I finally got a better look at his badly-tanned face. He had uneven freckles and his right canine tooth was missing giving him a goofy look. I tried not to laugh at him. I don’t think he could read body language, because he kept standing there trying to talk to me. “So, where are you going?” He asked, way-too enthusiastically. I probably should have lied, but I’m not good at thinking on the spot. “My dad’s house” I told him.
He took a step back and I thought he was going to leave me alone, but he stood there and shrugged before saying “Aw, going home is nice. I’m going home too.” His tone and demeanour was more relaxed, however I still didn’t feel comfortable talking to him. I went back to messing with my bag as he started grabbing at the pockets of his coat. He pulled out a familiar looking orange train ticket and waved it towards my face. “Here’s where I’m going home to. I haven’t been there for a year.”
Reluctantly, I looked at what he was showing me. In bold black type it read STD, One Way, To Shroby. (I had no idea where that was.) The “From” section was blank. Surely that was a misprint, but before I had the chance to look at it again he snatched it away. “That’s great” I told him, trying to sound positive, “Home is good.” I hugged my bag, stood up from the bench and tried to shuffle back towards the doors before he could say anything else to me. But he gave me a pat on the shoulder and kept jabbering on. “Where are you going home to? Somewhere nice?” Forcing a smile I spluttered out “Just back to Lincoln.”
He pursed his lips and tilted his head as if I’d said something cryptic that he had to decipher. Once again he began rummaging for something in his pockets. I was going to take my moment to get away from him but he pulled out a UK road map. It was fanned out and not properly folded, with a lot of tears at the edges. The front cover had been ripped off and a piece of lined note paper had been stapled on in its place. ‘Abel’s Map!’ was written along the top margin in red ink. Holding the map with both hands the man (who I’m guessing must have been Abel) let it flap down before folding it in half and thrusting it towards my face. “Look! Here’s where I’m from…” He was pointing at a big marker-pen circle that seemed to indicate the border where Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire and Leicestershire counties meet. I had to squint to see it in the low light, but I could faintly make out “Shroby” in small print next to the word HOME scrawled on in marker. Abel shook the map and poked at the circled area again, “Now you can show me where you’re from!” I shook my head and held back my hands in protest, why was he making me do this? It was his map, surely he could find Lincoln on it.
I knew he wouldn’t leave me alone until I gave him an answer, so I took a look at the map and hastily pointed to the bumped-out headland between Scunthorpe and Boston. “It’s around here” I said, rubbing my finger in a wide loop over that small area of the map. He whisked the map away from my face and began closely inspecting the spot I’d pointed out, “I’m not seeing it…” he started, but before he could finish I made my escape.
Backing away I eventually managed to get back through the doors and into the station building. It was noticeably warmer and I was thankful for that at least. Looking back through the waiting room I could see Abel walking around in a circle still looking at his old map. I’d probably seemed rude but I wanted to be away from the guy. I checked the departure boards again but they were still blank. The lady behind the desk was fiddling with a pen and didn’t seem to have noticed me. Despite being tired of pointless conversation I went to give the Info Desk one last try. Gently tapping on the glass I simply asked “Hi, what station is this?” Ms. Incompetent snapped out of her trance, dropped the pen and looked at me again with the same old fake grin. “Where do you think it is?” “Barnetby?” I groaned. Was she really going to keep this up? The lady nodded. I rolled my eyes and took a moment to collect myself. This time I decided to ask about something else, “When is the next train to Shroby?” Her smile faltered and she looked as if she actually had to think for a second, “Where?” she asked. Maybe she didn’t hear me properly so I slowed it down “Sh-roe-bee, you just gave that man a ticket.” Instead of that smile her face morphed into a frown. The tone of her voice became less perky and she drummed her finger nails on the desk before saying “I’m sorry, I don’t know where that is.” Letting out an irritated whine I dropped my bag and asked one last time “Can you at least tell me when the next train to Lincoln is?” She bit her lip, shrugged and shook her head.
Shaking, I snatched up my bag and tried not to cry again. How could she possibly know this little about the trains? It was as if she didn’t even work there. I grabbed my phone out of my bag and tried turning it on, hoping I’d have some message from dad. The screen lit up for a second to show the dead battery icon before blinking back off. I clutched the device so hard that I’m surprised I didn’t break it. It took all of my remaining self-restraint to not toss it on the floor like a disposable cup. With the last of my strength I stuck my phone in my pocket, grabbed my bag by the top handle and dragged myself back out to the cold, bleak platform.
It was fully dark now, aside from the glow coming from inside. Without any light pollution the sky stretched out endlessly in all directions, and the windows of the houses almost looked like the stars overhead. Hunched over, I trudged over to the far end of the platform to be as far away from Abel as I could get. I zipped my hoodie up all the way before dropping down on the hard concrete. The pole-mounted clock was as round and bright as the moon, showing 21:15. At this time would the trains even be running to a small station like this? Over the low whir of turbine blades I could hear heavy footsteps getting louder and louder. I didn’t need this again.
“You seem very down in the dumps.” Abel said, he was still loud but not as bombastic. I didn’t even budge. Maybe he’d leave me alone this time. “If it makes you feel better, I found you on my map!” Once again he waved the tatty UK Pocket Roadmap in front of me, now Lincoln was clearly written on in big blue Biro letters across the area I’d pointed out. “That’s good” I humoured him. He sat down next to me and spread the map out on the ground. “I travel a lot” he enthused “I keep losing where I am so I write it on my map.” I nodded and gave the page a quick scan, not only was the map faded and ripped but it was covered in scribbles from many different pens. He kept babbling on about what different lines were but I tuned it out. Resting my head on my knees I could feel myself zoning out again, his voice becoming a faulty radio signal dwindling in and out of focus.
A sudden nudge in the arm broke me out of my trance. Abel was grinning like a proud child and shaking his blue pen in front of my eyes. “Look, look! I drew us!” he chirped. Sure enough he was pointing to a spot on the map where he’d drawn two small stick figures, one with a backpack and the other with a big coat. “That’s nice.” I yawned. “Looks good.” He clapped his hands and blurted out “Not many people talk to me, you’re my new Train-Buddy.” Abel then sighed and shrugged his shoulders, “I travel a lot but most of the time it’s like people don’t notice me.” There was a moment of silence and I just tried to pull my least-awkward grin. Abel shuffled his feet again before finally perking up “Here!” he said, pulling his Biro from his coat pocket. “Take this!” He held the pen out towards me, shaking it around like he’d done with the ticket. Hesitantly I reached out, took it from his hand and put it in the front pocket of my bag. I stammered out a “thank you.”
Abel stood up again and I managed to follow suit. My body was cold and felt like a rusty machine and I clumsily stretched my aching legs and tried to regain balance. Through the stale air a sharp whistle could be heard and I immediately warmed with joy. A train! With a rush of pistons and the chug of wheels, two brilliant headlights beamed around the bend as my way home came into view. The small screen on the front clearly read LINCOLN. It was 22: 43 but at least it was here! Abel and I stood back as the train whirled to a stop, all the way along Platform 2. The double doors of the carriage clicked open inviting me inside and I pulled my bag back over one shoulder. “Goodbye Train-Buddy,” said Abel, “Get home safe!”
I shot him a half-smile before taking that stride into the warmth of Carriage B, and quickly sitting down in the nearest empty window seat. As I expected, he was standing there beaming and waving at me. I returned the gesture as the doors closed and the train prepared to move on again. The lights in the station building were off and I could only faintly see the shadow of my Train-Buddy as the wheels began to tug the train forwards. The silhouette of the wind turbine still loomed over the horizon, making a dark space in front of the stars. As the train set into motion I took one last look at the houses on the hill, but the lights weren’t on anymore. While speeding away from Barnetby, it was as if it wasn’t even there. I lay back in my seat, so glad to be comfortable at last.
The conductor came by to check the tickets of the few other passengers, but luckily he left me alone. I must have fallen asleep because the next thing I remember about the journey back was waking up as my pocket buzzed. I jolted awake and whipped my phone out so fast that I almost dropped it. New Message from Dad, “Where are you???” I swiped to reply and saw that he’d sent me multiple messages in the past few hours, “What time is train? Do you want lift?” and “When you getting in?” Fumbling I managed to reply, “Train was late. On way back now. Would like a lift.” Before I clicked it off again I noticed that the battery had recharged itself all the way back to 76%, a lot more than I thought it was able to. I zoned out for most of the way back, drifting off watching the lights of passing towns and cars whiz in and out of view through the window. Eventually the train pulled into a small station, fully lit with street lights which woke me from my daze. The white signpost clearly said “Barnetby.” This wasn’t the same station I’d come from, so where had I been? I must have gotten off at the wrong stop.
Some passengers left and I waited for the conductor to walk past again before getting his attention and asking “Hey, where was the last station?” He took a quick look at a printed timetable before answering “Well luv, that was Habrough we just came from and it’s Market Rasen next.” I thanked him as he went back to checking the tickets of the new passengers. The conductor on the last train must have told me the wrong stop, I realised. But, where had I been then? Staying awake on the way back was a struggle but at least I knew the rest at the other end would be worth it. After what felt like a life’s journey I was stumbling out on to the platform at Lincoln Central into the familiar arms of my dad, calling out “Welcome home Sal!”
Everything else that had happened that day felt like a dream as I buried myself in my old purple duvet and dropped off to sleep like a log that night. I didn’t wake up until 10:22am the next day. The lie-in was great and I actually felt alive again. My bag and hoodie were hung on my computer chair, and a cup of fresh tea was waiting on the desk next to them. Slowly rolling out of bed I got up and went to pick up the cup. As I got to the desk I realised that my mobile was still hanging out of the hoodie pocket. Its battery was fully dead so I went into my bag to get the charger for it. Sliding my hand into the bag’s pocket I felt something thin and plastic. The pen. I pulled it out and placed it on the desk. It was only a standard blue biro, half used up with a lightly chewed cap. But it felt like a foreign object that didn’t belong here, as if it shouldn’t exist away from its owner. I’d almost forgotten about Abel, he didn’t seem real now that I was fresh and fully awake. My mind snapped back to the last time this pen was used, when he drew us on to that big map of his. He’d put us at the station, but where had that actually been?
Immediately curious, I set about fetching the charger and getting my phone working again. I needed to look this up. After around fifteen minutes it finally had enough juice to stay switched on. Hastily I loaded up the internet and fumbled at the touch-screen keypad. Bringing up Google Maps I searched for “Grimsby,” it loaded slowly but as soon as it did I zoomed in to find the railway. Scrolling along I followed the stations that I knew were on that route: Healing, Stallingborough, Habrough, all the way through to Barnetby. No matter how much I zoomed in or scrolled around the screen I couldn’t find a station on the line between those last two. But I knew there had to be. Unless the second conductor had also given me the wrong station names? That had to be the case, right? I’d been frustrated and tired that night, so maybe I’d gotten confused somewhere. I was about to drop it and accept my mistake, but I remembered one last thing. Clearing the search bar I typed in a new place name. “Shroby.” The screen took a few seconds to load but when it did, it didn’t jump to a new location. I wasn’t being shown the border of the three counties, only the black bar saying “No results found for your search.” I refreshed the page but it didn’t change. How was Shroby not on their map? Abel had a ticket to go there! Frantically I tried a broader web-search but the only results I could find for “Shroby” were people and not places. I looked up road maps and county maps but the town didn’t seem to exist on any of them. If this town wasn’t in the UK then where was Abel’s map from? And where was he going? What bothered me the most though, is where did I meet him?
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2017.06.30 23:25 Thrillvillefan Infinite Warfare Zombies Idea: Fan-made Willard Wyler Movie: 13 Floors of Doom (Re-uploaded due to Account Filter Issues)

*This is my idea on what would happen if Infinite Warfare added a map in the 2000s for #DLC4. This is only a thought on what would the map look like, and while it's still a work in progress, feel free to help me complete the last pieces of the puzzle, such as making a name for the boss of the map and other things. In case this idea breaks any rules, I will immediately remove it under a moderator's note.
*UPDATE July 7th, 2017:
"Hello, everyone. I made some recent updates to this fan-made movie. The final version of the soundtrack is finished, as well the ending cutscene if the actors were to pick up the Soul Key from the previous movie and get teleported to the next one. I may need some help on the map's design and on what the hotel looks like. If you want to volunteer, we can group up and discuss the map's physical appearance anytime soon. I hope everyone is having a good time at Sonova Beach for the moment!"
*This post is also going to be a long one to read. I recommend reading it by parts or only read the important parts of the idea. It's also a bit jumbled up, but I'll do my best on fixing it as I'm new to the Reddit community. I might need some help on making the thread smooth, like in the guides for each Zombies map to make it easy to read.
Description: 13 Floors of Doom, the final fan-made chapter of the Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare zombies experience, features the return of Willard Wyler, the mysterious movie director and proclaimed Master of The Macabre portrayed with voice and likeness by Paul Reubens. This time, Wyler has trapped the four heroic actors inside a new (unreleased) horror film, set in the 2000s. The story of the film begins when a lighting strikes a part of the hotel, causing the disappearance of 6 people during a party at the modern star of its own estate. The hotel was set to close its doors permanently after the staff and the guests were unable to find the missing persons. It's up to you to uncover the mystery of the hotel's deepest secrets and to learn more about what happened to the unsuspecting guests, gone from reality while facing various Zombies that haven't checked out in a long time after the hotel was left to rot. Our new characters return from the ongoing story in this all-new experience, and after going through several movies followed by aliens, slashers, carnivorous rats, and radioactive monsters, they are more than ready to conclude Willard's Horror Festival! Will our survivors go up to the floor of success, or drop down to their Doom?
Random bits of the Map's info:
13 Floors of Doom: Drop down to an unsolved mystery!
Sometime in the 2000s The SummerGlance Hotel South East, USA 10:21:45 PM
Special Power and Zombie: Dimension Mode Dimension Mode is similar to Rave Mode from Rave in the Redwoods but it will not only reflect things that the player can't normally see when the mode is disabled; it will provide hints on how to solve the Easter egg, gather missing parts and memory CDs and allow the player to walk on walls (think of the Distortion World from Pokémon Platinum combined with the Fifth Dimension for example). In Dimension Mode, the atmosphere will be dark in color and have a full starry night sky as various objects and symbols float around the map. The zombies will have a almost-invisible while static overlay in them, and will blow up into stars if killed. The player can also obtain Static Orbs (Spheres with white noise and lighting bolts surrounding it) to receive powers similar to Shaolin Shuffle, but only a specific moveset is made. The player can throw lightning spheres at zombies, zap them, power-punch them and levitate them only to push them away afterwards.
The special zombies of the map are Willows; female ghosts similar to the mistress from Buried except that they're transparent zombies with a light-blue glow and glowing eyes. They all dress in formal 2000s clothing and have their hair either down or in a ponytail. They blow up into bits of stars if killed and have the same speed as the roller skating divas from Shaolin Shuffle but can give more damage to the player.
Easter Egg Goal: Resolve the mystery of the hotel: recover a handful of evidence that can shed more light on why the hotel shut down, the background of the missing persons in order to find them and defeat the boss (the ghosts will assist during the fight) in order to set the ghosts free and recover a piece of the soul key to escape the film.
Map and Character Concepts (4 Actors) Poindexter: The Clubber (Hairstyle and face: Messy short red-hair (that's his natural hair color, right?) with cyan highlights. Clothes: white shutter shades on his head, silver stud earrings, dark grey t-shut with purple decal (decal should be specified) over a black jacket, black velvet jeans and checkered black and purple slip-ons (like Vans) A.J.: The Movie Star (Hairstyle and face: Blond flicked hair with frosted platinum blond tips and stubble and golden aviator sunglasses with dark brown lenses. Clothing: a gold ring on his right ring finger, navy blue suit jacket over a white collared shirt with a black vest, navy blue business pants and black loafers) Andre: The Reporter (Hairstyle and face: Cornrows, stubble with a mustache. Clothing: Black tie, white shirt, black suit pants and brown smart shoes. Sally: The Diva (Hairstyle and face: Alicia Key's cornrows with a fuzzy-like curly bun, smoky eyeshadow with flicked eyelashes and dark red lipstick. Clothing: Silver hoop earrings, Leopard-print dress, black leather jacket, white feather boa, black strapped heels, various gold bracelets and gold-colored, oval-shaped fingernails)
Rooms & Interactive Traps: Fan trap: Unscrewing the vent cover on a ventilation engine will expose the fan and any Zombie that walks near the trap will get sucked and juiced. It has the same function as the wood chipper from Rave In The Redwoods. DJ Trap: Like the DJ Trap from Rave In The Redwoods, it will play a song on the DJ Booth that will attract Zombies (except that some of them, who wear headphones, may ignore the music) and begin dancing. After a couple seconds, the speakers will blast towards the undead crowd, killing the dancing zombies and the trap will have some time to recharge before it can be used again. Chandelier trap: Unhooking the chandelier will crush any zombie that stands close or near the chandelier before it crashes to the ground, and it causes an electric field to spread across the disaster area, posing as an electrocuting death trap to any zombie or player that walks on the electric field. Sprinkler trap: Since there are sprinklers near the glass and the pool, turning them on will knock out a zombie if they are standing near them and fall into the pool, causing them to drown. This trap has the same function as the waterfall trap from Rave In The Redwoods. Dance Floor Trap: This trap will cause the dance floor panels to come loose and fall off into a dark hole. If a zombie steps on a square 3 times, the panel will come loose and the zombie will fall to their death. Tennis Ball Machine Trap: Activating this trap will shoot tennis balls rapidly towards any zombie that faces the machine, killing them after several hits depending on their health and on the number of scenes the player is going through. Locations: Main building: After leaving the rooftop, the highest accessible level on the main building is now available. Take the elevator to a different room of the hotel, which includes the lobby, 3 corridors, the party room, the terrace and the mezzanine. Rooftop Players will spawn in this area in the rooftop of the main building in the hotel. The fan trap can be activated for 500 dollars if the second section of the rooftop is unlocked. Players can purchase the Up 'N Atoms Candy Perk. Courtyard Public pool Sport Fields: Near the tennis courts, a wood chipper trap can be activated for 500 points. The player can also spend 200 points to smack tennis balls against zombies 5 times or to activate the Tennis Ball Machine Trap for 500 points. Parking lots Beach Small Park Usable Traps: Some of these traps can be used around the map, others come in the form of alcoholic drinks with special effects (and should not be consumed) at the bar. Alcohol Traps: Spicy Bloody Mary This bottle will create a fire if thrown at a specific target. If a zombie is hit by the flames, they'll catch on fire. Sticky Sangria This bottle can form a sticky puddle that will get Zombies stuck and unable to move for a certain amount of time, giving the player the opportunity to kill zombies while they are trapped in the puddle. Boozy Black Hole This bottle will cause a black hole that will suck any zombie that "accidentally" steps on it. Sinkhole This bottle will act as a quick sand trap for the undead. If thrown, it will cause zombies to sink into the puddle, like quicksand. The Mood Swinger Throwing this bottle at a target will cause them to "turn" their cards, and become a helper zombie that will kill any zombies nearby. The zombie can get killed by its enemies if it receives enough damage. Misc. Trap: MP3 Speaker Similar to the boom box trap, this trap is in the shape of a iHome-like music speaker with an MP3 player on the top. Like the boom box trap, it will lure all the zombies to the thrown location and dance before the bomb explodes.
Soundtrack: These songs play through the nightclub and in the rooftop of the hotel. Most of them are pop & electronic dance music songs.) The Little Ones - Face The Facts (2006) We Won't Be Quiet - David Crowder Band (2007) Jeckyll & Hyde - Frozen Flame (2007) Move In My Direction - Bananarama (2005) A*Teens - Slammin' Kinda Love (2001) Whitney Houston - Million Dollar Bill (2009) Rogue Traders - Voodoo Child (2005) Mere Pass - Basement Jaxx (2004) Westlife - Uptown Girl (2000) Tiësto - Lethal Industry (2001) Alicia Keys ft. Busta Rhymes & Rampage - Fallin' (Remix) (2001) Amy Winehouse - You Know I'm No Good (2006) Rihanna - Pon De Replay (2005) Ashanti - Happy (2002) Tobymac - Feelin' So Fly (2007) The Black Eyes Peas - Where Is The Love? (2004) Madonna - 4 Minutes (ft. Justin Timberlake & Timbaland) (2008) Bowling For Soup - 1985 (2004) Usher - U Remind Me (2001) Groove Armada - Superstylin' (2001) Alexandra Burke - Bad Boys (2009) Mauro Picotto- Proximus - Medley With Adiemus (2000) Jeckyll - Time Flies (2007) DJ Jose - House of Justice 2008 - Johnny Crockett Radio Mix (2008) The Pussycat Dolls - When I Grow Up (2008)
Image Background (I.E., PS4 Themes) & Poster Descriptions: The image shows a view of the abandoned The SummerGlance Hotel looming over a nearby distance, with trees on both sides. The atmosphere is dark, some of the sign letters are dimmed or burned out, with the first H, followed by the first E, then the first and second L letters dim, spelling "HELL". In the alternate image, the atmosphere is black and white, but some of the building's windows appear bright in a white color, along with the sign letters. The sky shows a star field in the dark sky, and various mysterious objects appear on the image's overlay along with a couple of human silhouettes. An atmospheric sound similar to the Rave in The Redwoods Theme plays in the background, but with a sinister twist. When the theme changes to its alternate version, an ominous song (similar to the song playing in the 5th Dimension scene from the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror ride) plays in the background as the aforementioned objects appear around the atmosphere.
The poster is similar to The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror Movie poster except that t shows a front view of the hotel and The Unknown Lord looming over it, blending with the dark colors of the image. The four actors appear on the bottom, with suspicious looks in their faces. The tag line of the poster says: "Solve the mystery of the final check-in, before your life drops down."
Opening & Ending Transcript concepts: The tagline "Previously in Zombies" appears on the black screen, followed by a brief recap of the opening scene of (#DLC3.) At the end, (????) a glint of a Soul Key appears on the ground, where (????) picks it up and the actors are immediately teleported by another portal. In real life, Willard Wyler can be seen getting frustrated at the actors escaping his film and grunts. Willard Wyler: It's been only 6 films, and my expected volunteers are already trying to find a way out! I don't have anymore classic movies for the rats to go through, but I have an unreleased under my sleeve... He then diverts his attention towards a pile of films in the corner and begins rummaging through them. He then pulls out the movie case of 13 Floors of Doom. Willard: Perhaps they'll finally succumb to their fate after taking a ride that will lead to their doom at the hotel, and that will hopefully end their lives at once! Willard begins laughing as lighting strikes are heard. The scene then changes to Inside the movie, 13 Floors of Doom. An hotel can be seen in the distance while a rainstorm hangs on the atmosphere. Various people can be seen inside the main lobby having a party. A narrator can be heard narrating the opening plot of the movie. Narrator: South East USA, 2000s. For over 40 years, The SummerGlance Hotel has provided the most comfortable and enjoyable leisures that any modern hotel can offer. Examples of these activities are bright happy hours, luscious dance club nights, and a satisfactory amount of enjoyment. The camera switches to various places of the hotel; a restaurant full of people laughing and clinking their drinks, to a dance party at the hotel's nightclub, and to a casino, with men tossing their cards on their table and pulling the handles of slot machines. Dollar bills and poker chips begin to fill the screen to show another scene. But the good life at The SummerGland Hotel never turned anyone down, even if they're not aware of an ominous fate that will change their experience forever. The scene changes to a lobby, where one bellhop leads three adults, one teenager and one child to one of the elevators. They all board the elevator. A shadowy figure can be seen on a dark corner of the lobby, grinning, and later wanders away from the camera. On a lightning storm hanging on the climate of America's South East region, a legend turned the hotel upside down. On that night, 6 people checked in to the hotel, taking them up to the 13th floor of the building. Nobody in the hotel is aware that this last check-in will change the way they look at their entertainment spot. The elevator doors close, and as the camera zooms in to the floor indicator screen, the scene changes to the outside of the hotel, on the side where the elevator shafts are located.The weather has transformed into a mist of rain and wind, and as lighting strikes are briefly heard outside, one of the lighting rods strikes one of the lifts of the hotel, causing it to shatter. The people inside the elevator are then electrocuted, and suddenly disappear from the lift. The camera switches to a view of one of the destroyed shafts, where the empty elevator begins to descend rapidly to the ground. The party is suddenly interrupted by the elevator crashing into the ground floor of the lobby. Everyone shockingly sprints towards the wreck in the elevator area, while security members attempt to search the remains of the elevator and of the entire hotel. Soon, everyone began searching countless hours for these unfortunate souls, now gone from the mist of reality. They searched the entire hotel, but they were never found. They came with the decision to shut down the place for good, because of the tragedy that caused six of their guests to vanish, there was no proper reason to resume the services of The SummerGlance Hotel. The scene then changes to the hotel, now in a state of disrepair, over a dark, stormy sky. The camera changes to the left rooftop area of the hotel, where the 4 actors are teleported to for a brief moment, and then switches to the many abandoned rooms of the hotel, where dust and cobwebs are covering the ruins of the rooms. The scene lastly changes to the outside of the abandoned hotel's backside, and a bunch of zombies begin to appear on the beach, approaching the building. The hotel, now left to rot in the grounds where it was first built, their time was up on the same night that we witnessed. Tonight, a group of aspired "Journalists" will attempt to solve the mysteries of The SummerGlance Hotel, but the flaw of their investigation is that they'll have to solve the mystery, while the hotel itself leaves them locked inside the building's grounds, away from civilization, while their fate lies ahead of them. Their time is ticking. Will they solve the mystery of The SummerGlance Hotel's fate?
Ending scene transcript (from the previous film)
The four actors pick up the Soul Key from the previous movie and are teleported by another portal. The scene changes to a panorama of a plains biome at night with a city on the distance. The camera moves over the rooftop of what appears to be a luxury hotel, and the four actors are warped into the rooftop, although the fog that wraps the atmosphere is covering them a little, they appear to be wearing 2000s clothing.
Sally: Oh, you've gotta be fuckin' kidding me. How many films do we need to go through in order to get home?! Andre: I ain't entirely sure, but I'm starting to get sick of all this zombie-fighting bullshit.
Zombie moans are then heard from a distance, and the four actors approach to a balcony in the rooftop, and as they look down, they see a swarm of zombies wandering around the building's grounds.
A.J.: I guess this means we'll have to carry on fighting, no matter what happens. Even if we hop from movie to movie, we gotta keep going. Poindexter: He's right! We've been through a whole bunch of Willard Wyler productions and we can't give up! Not at this point, to say at least. Who wants to continue on kicking zombie asses? Andre: Despite being tired of killing zombies, I won't let my guard down that easily. Sally: Same here, Wright. We gotta stay on our guard.
The four actors then withdraw their pistols and dash off from the balcony and into the rooftop's doorway as electro 00s music begins to play.
Poindexter: I have this motivational feeling that today's about to go down. And I'm saying it!
Ending scene transcript (from the recent film) The 6 ghosts begin circling on The Unknown Lord, as dark clouds of smoke begin to come out of the shadowy figure. He roars as the smoke covers his figure and vanishes on plain sight. His hat and formal wear hits the ground and the ghosts return to the 4 actors in the empty abandoned party room. Child Ghost: Look, dad! We defeated the bad guy! Are we the new heroes of the city? We saved the day! Father Ghost: Yes, son. We saved the city from crime once and for all. Woman Ghost: Thank you, my dear people. With the Unknown Lord put out of his misery, and with the mystery behind our disappearance solved, we're able to be set free and to step forward to what lies beyond our new path. Poindexter: Well, we're glad it's finally over, isn't it? Teen Ghost: It is over for all of us. For now on, we'll get to see what lies beyond the afterlife. But now that we all have reached the room where we were supposed to be, we can now find ourselves standing big: we beat our goal. We're now in the right place. A.J.: And what about it? The teen Ghost giggles and claps twice, turning the party room into its former glory, with bright colors, waltzing music and dancing couples like a party was taking place in the room. The ghosts change to their alive versions as the music of the party goes on. The Celebrity Guest steps forward and puts his hand around the Bellhop. Child Ghost: Well, since we remained trapped in this hotel, unable to go anywhere, we couldn't reach this place without your help, and me and my parents are proud of you. You guys are the best helpers a family can have. Celebrity Guest: And since you all helped many people who were trapped in this nightmare marathon, including these ghosts, they can all be set free if you can return home. Andre: We're doing everything we can to get the hell outta here. We've been through various movies and I hope this is the last one. Bellhop Ghost: Hopefully, sir. What lies ahead of the next exit will determine wether or not we'll get to go home. It's all about hope, after all. Celebrity Guest: Yes, but look at all of you: 4-5 movies and you're all still alive. You're still living, and I hope y'all can stay that way. Always. Mother Ghost: Until our paths cross, we'll meet again on the coming of time. The mother Ghost does a hand movement, and the other ghosts, including the celebrity Guest, all vanish in a cloud of stars. Once the ghosts vanished, the party room returns to its decaying, abandoned state. The four actors then face what used to be the remains of The Unknown Lord. Poindexter: I gotta admit, that was a touching moment of helping those people. They deserved better. Sally: Yeah, maybe they'll be able to break out of this film when our ride's over. We still got a lot to go, but maybe this is where it's all comin' to an end. Poindexter: We might get trapped in another movie if it's possible. Whatever lies in that key, it better get us back home. Andre: I'm already tired of going through thousands of movies. An actor's work can't be that broad. The actors then stare at a piece of the soul key where the remains used to stand. They exchange looks for a brief moment. A.J.: So, this better be the last key. If that thing isn't going to take us home, I don't know what will. Andre: Man, I sure hope this key can end all this crazy mayhem for sure. Andre kneels down and grabs a piece of the soul key. He looks at the key with hope as the actors are warped out of the room by another portal.
The scene changes to the outside of Willard Wyler's theater, where the sky is clear with birds chirping in a distance. The street has lakes from the rain spread around, and as the camera looms over the theater, the actors are teleported at the outside of the building by the portal, all of them wearing their normal clothes.
Andre: So, we're now back to the real world now? No more movies to go through? Poindexter: We are indeed no longer inside a Willard Wyler production! We are all outside the theater! AJ: So does that mean that since we are not in a goddamned movie anymore, do we get to go home? Sally: If we get the hell outta here, then we'll all gonna get home, guys. Let's not waste anymore time and leave this place. AJ: I think you're right on that point. Let's get the hell out of here. The actors soon walk away from the theater. The camera zooms over the building as the actors quickly rush to their homes, and the camera then focuses on the projection room, where Willard Wyler is seen lying on the ground in pain, clutching his heart.
Willard: He...Heh... I... Guess they all made it back, my chosen actors...
Willard tries to stand up, but collapses to the ground again. He looks at his soul jar and sees that all the Soul Keys were used for it to open; the majority of the souls trapped in his movies have vanished, while his soul is slowly fading away.
Willard: If only I made some minor changes to my films to prevent anyone to ever escape and succumb to their death scene... I would have NOTHING to worry about getting rid of them later! They'll just... Stay... Stay forever within my films...
Blood begins to trickle down on the hand Willard used to cut himself with. Willard's eyes widen as the world around him becomes white.
Willard: This is... This is where it ends, I suppose. If I found a way to kill all those actors and to regain my power once more, I could have returned. I could have returned with my film career... But today marks the day where my killer comeback... Never happened.
Willard's last worlds echo in a silent voice around him. His eyes close, and the screen goes white.
*The ending is still a work in progress as well.
That's what I have to say about the map's description. What are your thoughts about this map? Do you want Infinite Warfare to include the 2000s in Willard Wyler's Festival of Horrors? What are your ideas for this suggestion? Let me know in the comments.
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2016.05.18 00:55 m4milo Survivor: Kaoh Rong Finale Links Megathread

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2014.04.09 05:33 tabledresser [Table] I have superhuman hearing and a condition known as Hyperacusis. AMA!

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Wow, I've never heard of something like this, really interesting and thanks for doing this AMA. I think it must be a little bit weird to hear all kinds of sounds that other people can't hear, especially when people ask to explain those sounds, I think. Do you like listening to MP3 files? Or do you prefer lossless audio formats when listening to audio from digital sources? Can you clearly hear any difference? You said you have/had a service dog that alerted other people when certain sounds caused distress. How did you, or someone else, train your dog to do this? How does she alert other people? Does/did she get it wrong on occasion? Thanks for participating! Yes, it's sometimes really hard to put things into words. I prefer .wav or .flac files when I can't listen to straight-up vinyl. I usually put my digital music through a low-pass EQ in whatever program I'm using to listen just to be on the safe side and cut any high frequencies that may exist on the recording, either because it's not the highest quality recording, or whatever recording technician just didn't catch a usually-inaudible frequency. I can most definitely hear the difference between a high-quality recording and a low-quality recording, one microphone from the next, etc. Having good hearing probably makes this easier, but it would be more realistic to attribute it to the fact that I have been fascinated with audio for as long as I can remember and have been studying it for a few years now. As for my service dog, it was probably just as much about training the dog as it was finding the right dog in the first place. A close family friend who was experienced in dog training spent some of her free time snooping around for an available puppy that had the right temperaments, and doing tests to determine the dog's personality, like seeing how she reacted to being handed food or being talked to in different tones. Once our family friend found the dog with the perfect personality, who happened to be a female corgi pup who was the runt of the litter, she introduced me, when I was about two years old, to the dog to see how I would react to the dog and the dog would react to me. Our personalities were quite compatible. My mom, who has a background in early childhood education and care, hired a professional trainer to help her train the dog to do basic service-dog-y things (don't be distracted from your job by weird and unfamiliar things, don't sniff other dogs' butts while on the job, etc.) until she got the idea that when she had the blue service dog vest on, it was time to work for her treats, and when she didn't, she could play happy puppy all she wanted. I was really young, so I wasn't really tuned into what exactly happened during the training, but eventually, she took care of me without being prompted, put in a vest, or given treats because she knew that I loved her more than anything, and she loved me, too. She used to alert my mother when sounds caused me distress by laying down horizontally across her feet and nuzzling my mom's legs. She used to comfort me by sensing when I was about to have a problem and trying to nudge me out of it. She never got anything wrong because she was taking her cues from me and not the environment, and she could read when I was distressed. My dad used to blow across the bottles in the recycling bin to make a noise, and I didn't like it, but I didn't say anything. The dog HATED it. She'd look at me, and look at him, and give me this "are you okay or not?" face, and then wait until my dad stopped and stare at the bottle for a bit, decide it wasn't a threat, and go back to sitting with me. She also hated thunder when I was really young, but when I got older and was able to tolerate thunder, she was fine with it too. She was the best dog. I don't want to give you her name, because she has a unique name (because I named her when I was 2) and has been published in a couple of articles, and I'm kind of obsessive about anonymity on the internet. Anyway, my dog lived a full life, she was 14ish when she died, which is pretty good for a dog, and she didn't have any major health issues right up until the months before she passed. We had another dog whom she was best friends with. She's buried in a nice spot in our backyard in New England, and besides, how many dogs get to ride the rides at Disney World?
Aww, really sounds like a great dog :). Also, I really like corgi's, so it's great it happened to be one. Do you still have a service dog? Nothing wrong with trying to be anonymous on the internet, especially when there already are some articles about you (and your dog). She was a great dog indeed. I still have my other pets, but I do not have another service dog.
What kinds of things can you hear that a normal person can't? Has it ever gotten you in to trouble, or given you an unfair advantage? Does it make music better or worse? When I was in middle school, I was definitely not one of the "cool kids". I used to be able to hear kids gossiping about me from afar, and it destroyed my sense of self-worth. It's also caused a lot of physical and emotional pain in my life. However, given some sort of magical opportunity, I would never trade in for normal hearing, and even though I feel a lot of pain, I always consider it a gift. Uhh, to list some things I can heahave heard that "normal" people can't: -sounds that are quiet (decibel-wise) or far away -electronics that operate on ultrahigh-frequencies such as cameras, wireless devices, old TVs, YOUR PHONE CHARGER AFTER YOUR PHONE IS DONE CHARGING, PLEASE UNPLUG IT, IT HURTS SO BADLY -bat and dolphin sonar -people on different floors/in different rooms of building -very small drips of water -many other things that I'm sure I can't think of right now.
Also, fluorescent lights are the worst.
Have you ever tried guided yourself only by sonar? I used to try when I was a little kid. I found I could only recognize the acoustics of rooms I already knew well enough to navigate in the dark, so walking around clicking was really just useless and concerned my parents.
Can you hear spooky ghosteses better than people without super hearing? I have yet to encounter any spooky ghosteses, but if/when I do, I will be sure to get back to you!
Would going into an Apple Store make your head explode like in Scanners? You can't see it, but on the inside, my head is exploding.
Also, I just Googled that clip because I have never seen that movie, and the sound leading up to the head-explosion almost made my head explode.
"He's doing it again?" "what?" "Clicking..." "Let the boy click!" It's funny because I used to do weird stuff like that, and my dog would just be totally happy following me on all of my bizarre adventures. I don't know what her secret to life was, but nothing bothered her. When I was a toddler, I used to take my baby doll out of the baby carriage, stuff it in the bottom part with the wheels, somehow manage to get my dog into the carriage, and run her up and down the hallway of our house. I have a picture of this, and she and I both look so happy.
Link to media.tumblr.com. I don't have a digital copy of her in the baby carriage, but I do have a picture of her with my other dog. She's on the right. Link to imgur.com
I now think of you as Calvin, and will refer to your dog as Hobbes from here on out. I'm cool with that.
It's a corgi??!!! I love corgis or dogs that look like corgis. They are permanently in the smile position. This makes the mental imagery so much better. They are both Pembroke Welsh Corgis. My service dog was rescued from a pet shop with inhumane practices and our other dog was from our friend's dog's litter, and he has won himself a fair number or blue ribbons in local dog shows, and is now retired on our farm. They're both great dogs! EDIT: If it helps the mental imagery at all, she also used to wink at me sometimes.
How did you find out you had super hearing? Did you hear a cotton ball touching a piece of felt during a hearing test? When I was an infant, loud/sudden or ultrahigh-frequency sounds caused seizures or seizure-like activities in my brain due to an anomaly on one of my brain waves. When I was tested by my audiologist, (again, I was too young to remember this) she found out that my hearing was somehow more sensitive than her testing equipment.
That's not as cool. Yeah, I know, but dude, did I mention that the possible cause could have been the fact that my house got hit by lightning when I was a baby?
Does this make it easier for you to eavesdrop on people? Have you ever heard anything you weren't supposed to because of it? Not only does it make it easier to eavesdrop on people, but it makes it impossible not to. You see, with Hyperacusis, the metaphorical mechanism that censors out unnecessary sounds in my brain just doesn't exist. So it's not just that I CAN HEAR all of these things, it's that I HAVE TO LISTEN to them all the time. This was awful for me in middle school, because I was a super awkward kid, and it would hurt to hear more popular kids mock me when I wasn't around. My parents, however, managed to keep plenty of healthy secrets from me, as I usually used noise cancellation headphones when I wasn't trying to focus at school or something. As I'm getting older, I'm doing a better job of actively filtering out other people's conversations, but I'm still not perfect at it.
Huh. Now that you mention your parents... How close was your room from theirs? shudder My room was right next to my parents' room, but we lived in a very rural area, so the sound of the bugs or the wind or the heater kicking in usually drowned out their conversations. All they did was talk about boring grown-up stuff, anyway. :P.
You think they avoided fucking loudly on purpose? I don't know, and I don't want to ask, thanks!
Was. What do you mean? Dogs don't live forever. She lived a full life, though. 14 years.
May she rest in peace. Thank you. It's wonderful not only that service dogs can help people the way they do, but also that they're totally willing and eager to do so. My 19th birthday is coming up and I'm asking anyone who would give me a birthday gift to instead donate to either my family friend's Rottweiler Rescue or Pet Partners (formerly the Delta Society, through which my service dog was registered).
As a parent of a child with an autism spectrum disorder (pdd nos although I think he may end up being reclassified with aspergers- not really sure yet) anyhow I thi you are on the money with ways a to alleviate other sources of difficulty in people w asd s so that their teachers etc can concentrate on the actual asd instead of sensory issues etc so good on ya. The other thing I wanted to suggest to you is that many theaters have "sensory showings" specifically geared towards kids with spectrum disorders, they turn the sound way down and make any other accommodations they can to make it more comfortable for people who have sensory processing disorders / autism etc. it might be a more comfortable way for you to watch. As a mom who has turned her life upside down to accommodate a kiddo who can't do things exactly the same way as other "typical" kids (btw the politically correct term is typical not normal- no offense here, trust me) I promise your mom didn't mind and all she was thinking is how guilty she felt that you couldn't enjoy the family gathering or that she brought you someplace and it hurt you. I'm sure they were dedicated to being the best parents they could be to their kids regardless of what kind of kids they were blessed with, and I am so glad you have such wonderful parents- what a by gift that you appreciate them so much. I think you will help lots of kids- have you studied sensory processing disorders specifically yet? Thank you so much for your kind words. I will be sure to use more politically correct terms in the future. I have not studied sensory processing disorders specifically yet, but I plan to do so further in my program at the university. Having the hearing issues I grew up with, I got along well with other children with special needs. My issue as well started out being classified as PDD-NoS, and the doctors were able to narrow down the diagnosis. If you believe your child may be soon diagnosed with Asperger's, I'd like to suggest reading some material by Temple Grandin if I may! Grandin has done some fabulous work with service animals and children with ASDs.
How bad is it when you're in a room full of people? Perhaps a lunchroom full of people back when you were in high school? Do you go to concerts? When you listen to music, what do you hear that normal people don't? Can you hear somebody fart in another room? Do you laugh when they do? (assuming you can hear it) I usually keep to myself and wear earplugs or noise cancellation headphones when I'm in large, crowded spaces. I tend to hang out near the door in case I need to leave. I'm getting better and better at recognizing when noises start to be too much and being able to get away from them as I grow up. When I was a kid, I used to just panic and freeze, and I think that's what caused the most damage. I still suffer from noise-induced seizure-like activities or panic attacks, but I am better at noticing the signs before they start and getting myself out of whatever mindset or environment is causing the issue. The only thing that is REALLY an issue is ultrahigh-frequency sound. That'll mess me up, because hearing ultrahigh frequencies isn't like hearing normal sounds. It's almost like a feeling of pressure in your inner ear that you could easily miss if you're not paying attention. So I'll usually feel the pain before I hear the sound. This lady who horribly misrepresented Hyperacusis on ABC News said it felt like the insides of your ears feel like they're suddenly full of burning acid, and that's probably the most realistic statement she made. I don't know if the pain itself is the worst part, or if it's the fact that it's totally debilitating. You can't cry, you can't scream, you can't do anything. It's like an 11 out of 10 on that stupid pain scale they give you at the doctor's. Advil, tylenol, etc. don't help; you just have to curl up in the fetal position and pray until it passes. It's not like that happens every day, though. I haven't gotten it that bad in at least a couple of years. I very much enjoy classical concerts. I like to sit in one of the front rows, but wear -20dB musician's earplugs, and that creates a nice balance for me. I recently attended a beautiful rendition of Dvorak's New World Symphony by my university's orchestra. As for rock concerts, I have been to five. One of them was a small Christian rock festival, another was when Bronze Radio Return came to my school, and the other three were Neon Trees concerts. I love classic rock, but I'm too scared to see any of the greats because of the size of the crowds. I like going to coffee-house-style setups where there's not so much crowd-screaming, but I'd really like to work up to be able to see Springsteen or somebody huge. I'm not sure what I hear in music that other people don't. I have the entire discography of Electric Light Orchestra, and I listen to that in studio headphones sometimes, and it is so fabulous. I was always pretty good at music theory; got a 3 on the AP exam in high school because I was so nervous I did awfully on the composition and singing parts. I don't really know what other people can't hear when they listen to music, so I don't really know what more I can hear. Does that make sense? My ex-boyfriend listened to a lot of post-punk and post-hardcore stuff, and when I told him I didn't like it, he told me it was because I don't like listening to music at the full volume. I guess that make sense, because frequency-response levels can be different at different volumes, and I just like to listen to music quietly. As for hearing people in other rooms, it depends on how quiet the rest of the building is, or how hard I'm trying to focus. If I'm tired and irritable, I can occasionally hear people on the third floor of my dorm being obnoxious when I'm on the first floor. I have been used to hearing people when they don't think I can, so I don't really find it entertaining, because it's just always the way things have been for me. I just try as hard as I can to give people some privacy by tuning them out or wearing headphones.
What is your least favourite thing to hear that others can't? Fluorescent lights give off a pretty nasty buzz with some high-pitched undertones. I would have to say, things that would normally occur in nature without humans don't hurt my ears as much as man-made things like electronics. When somebody leaves a charging cord plugged into the wall outlet without anything connected to the other end, the high-frequency squeal that makes can hurt quite a lot. The computer lab at school when I was younger (and now that I'm attending university, the engineering building) is full of bizarre beeps and painful ultrahigh-frequency noises. I'm not totally sure what causes all of them, but I know that devices like cameras actually use ultrahigh-frequency noise to run somehow. High-security areas have always been trouble for me. My high school was across the street from a military base and there were all kinds of weird noises coming out of there that nobody could hear but me. Security systems in high-security places like museums or government buildings hurt the most, I think. I'm not positive, but I hypothesize that they run on both high-frequency and ultrahigh-frequency sounds, and I think the combination of the two is too much for my brain. Also, whatever security system they have in the dressing room at some department stores drives me bananas. I usually just buy clothes and return them if they don't fit.
I wear hearing aids and many of these places interact with my hearing aids as well. Its the most annoying thing hearing the pulsing of the security stuff through my hearing aids. ( my loss is mild to severe depending on the pitch.) Really? If you don't mind my asking, do you wear digital or analog aids? Does the noise they make sound like signal interference, or an audible sound being transmitted through the aid? Perhaps with modern technology we can work on a phase cancellation algorithm for this?
I assume concerts, movie theatres, and plenty of other activities would be very difficult for you. Do you avoid them all together? If so what kind of hobbies or activities do you like to do? I used to have to avoid a lot of public activities altogether when I was a child. It brings tears to my eyes sometimes, because my family never said "screw it" and went and did things without me. If they wanted to do something, and I couldn't do it, they either missed out or modified the activity so I could be included. One time we went on a family reunion (I don't remember how young I was, but it must have been younger than 4 years because my brother was not yet born) and the amount of noise in the hotel was so bad that I seized up and started wailing. My mom drove me home all of the way from Georgia to Connecticut in the car without stopping while I cried, and contracted a really bad UTI from going without peeing the entire time. It's that kind of thing that haunts me sometimes; I had these health issues, and my parents flipped their lives upside down to make sure I was as healthy and happy as possible. Sometimes I feel guilty about it, even though there wasn't much I could do, being a small child. But I just try to remember to be the best daughter I can, and that will hopefully pay off in their eyes someday. I talked about this a bit in my previous responses, but I have been able to do more and more as I have grown up. I recently took a two-hour plane flight, but needed a decent nap to recuperate after it. I haven't traveled very far, because planes are one of the few remaining things that are REALLY dangerous to my ears, especially with prolonged exposure, and other means of transportation are kind of inconvenient and expensive. But taking a super-awesome road trip is totally on my bucket list. Now that I'm older, I can handle a full-length movie in a theater, but I doubt I'd be able to handle more than a few hours of that volume. Now that I'm an adult and learning how to understand and actively deal with the pain or discomfort, it's all about prolonged exposure and how much time I'd have to recover afterwards. I love playing instruments, but I've hopped from one to the next over the years, and I'm not particularly talented at playing any one instrument. When I was young, in the years before I had my hearing appliances, I used to take music lessons therapeutically. I played the Appalachian Mountain dulcimer from a very young age, and found that pretty soothing. I also played the piano from first grade to fifth grade and the synthesizer in Pit Band in high school. I saved up to buy a couple different sets of electronic drum pads, one of which is a tabletop set and the other of which is a full drum set, and I dream of playing the drums, but as of right now, it hurts too much. I used to play the djembe drum as part of music therapy when I was a toddler, so that's probably where that passion stemmed from. I'm working toward it. I've been playing the violin for a few years now, and I think the fact that I hate squeaks has probably made me a more careful violinist. Noise cancellation headphones are really what keeps me going nowadays.
So how much like Superman are you? I cannot leap tall buildings in a single bound; however, I like to attribute my super-hearing to the fact that my house was hit by lightning when I was an infant. That is probably not the case, though. It probably has something to do with the fact that I was born five weeks prematurely with a lot of complications. I consider seafood to be my Kryptonyte, but I would never be caught wearing a cape.
"What was a man with a cape doing with my father?" The only thing that's preventing me from upvoting this is the fact that I'm allergic to coconuts.
Could you trigger one of these "blips" by blowing on a pinwheel for 60 seconds? No, they're only sound-induced, but my doctor actually had me do that once. What does it mean?
It is a way to trigger a seizure called an absence seizure. Here is a video using a rag instead of a pinwheel( Link to www.youtube.com ). The kid "blips" out at 1:07 and then continues blowing as if nothing happened. That part is a bit different from what you described; the patient continues doing what he did before with no post-seizure state of confusion known as the postictal period. It is a type of seizure that kids get. THey probably did an EEG on you too right? I have a second, slightly longer question. I am a medical student. What would you want your healthcare team to know about you and your condition? What things can we do that are helpful? What things are not? Have you ever met anyone else with the condition before? I have never heard of it. In other words, what could I do in the future to better help a potential patient with your condition? Thank-you. They did MANY tests on me when I was very young (esp. "Birth-to-Three"), but I was too young to remember, and I do not have the results currently available. Sorry! I have met people who have sensitive hearing, but are not diagnosed with my specific condition. I would guess that they have some form of Hyperacusis, but I am not a medical professional, so it is not in my place to diagnose it. I have done a lot of research about people with Hyperacusis, but have not met anyone who's actually been diagnosed in person. The healthcare professionals I've seen in the past have been great to me, so it's hard to think of anything they could do better. The biggest issue I've had in general is people seeing that I wear hearing appliances, assuming they're hearing aids, and yelling at me to ensure that I can hear them. This is a totally understandable mistake, but it hurts sometimes. I would totally not be offended if someone asked me if the level of their voice was comfortable. That would be awesome. I think that if you're dealing with a child who may have Hyperacusis, and it appears as though the level of aural simulation is overstimulating to them, maybe you could write down your conversations back and fourth with the child or take a break from talking? I know that the qualities of some people's voices just affect me the wrong way and tire out my ears. It has nothing to do with the person, just the acoustic quality of the person's voice. Does that answer your questions?
Yes. Thank-you for answering my questions and doing this AMA. I find it very interesting and know other people do too. Cheers :) It's hard to find literature, but there was an ABC News segment about people with Hyperacusis. I think that either their cases were far out of the ordinary or they were overdramatizing for the camera. I don't mean to be rude or belittle their problems, but you could see that whenever a sound made the lady flinch, it took her a second to react. Car horns and city noises hurt my ears, but there is no delay; if a sound hurts, it's going to hurt as soon as I hear it. Maybe they just have different problems than I do? But just speaking from my own experience, although the pain is debilitating, the reaction I have is not an outward "AAH I'M IN PAIN", but it's more inward. That's why I'd say she's being dramatic. Maybe I just have a higher pain threshold than this lady? Here's the link anyway, if you want to check it out. Link to abcnews.go.com
I am the person in 20/20. I was not overdramatizing for the camera. It is possible that hyperacute hearing from birth is entirely different from hyperacusis plus noise-induced pain caused by acoustic injury. Link to www.buzzfeed.com. I am sorry if I have offended you. When you feel painful sounds, is your reaction to the noise delayed? Or may that have been a product of video editing? I did not mean to belittle your struggle, and I hope you'd like to talk to me a bit more about the issue.
You say you are hoping to use your gift/curse to help the greater good. In what way? Can you expound on this? Hyperacusis is caused by an anomaly in one of the brainwaves. As it turns out, that same anomaly can cause disorders of communication such as Autism Spectrum Disorders or PDD-NoS. (Please note that I'm not a doctor, and if anyone knows better, feel free to fact-check me!) But as I mentioned before, MicroTech stopped producing the Refuge because there was not enough of a market for the device to be profitable. I don't believe there was not enough of a market because not enough people have Hyperacusis. I believe that not enough people KNOW that Hyperacusis is the problem. For example, think about a child who is diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome. He may be feeling extreme pains, but because of his Asperger's, he may also be unable to communicate what these pains are. If his pediatrician knew more about Hyperacusis, he may be able to get tested early, and if sound is the cause of his pain, a device similar to the Refuge (but possibly even digital rather than analog!) may be able to help the child control the amount of discomfort he feels on a day-to-day basis. Then, his teachers/parents/doctors will be able to better treat his Asperger's, because one of the things that makes his life more difficult than that of a "normal" child will be out of the way. I was lucky enough that my parents had the resources to persevere until they found an answer, but a lot of children have not been so lucky. I hope that my studies in Audio Engineering may be able to help in the research and treatment of non-traditional hearing problems, and bring awareness to Hyperacusis. Furthermore, I really believe that medical devices such as hearing aids should be more customizable to the patient's needs. A lot of software to do this with digital aids has been developed, but I believe that with current digital technology, we can do even better. If all that fails, I could always learn to cope with the pain and use my hearing to listen to sonar or something. Is that a marketable skill?
anomaly in one of the brainwaves. I don't know enough about brains to know what you do mean, but this isn't an accurate description. I would rather keep the super-specifics of my personal health issues private, and I myself am not a doctor, so I'm not sure how to best describe it without giving up my whole name-rank-and-serial-number identity to the entire internet, if that makes sense.
Have you ever looked at etymotic earplugs as a replacement for the discontinued pair? It sounds like a similar device. Looked up etymotic earplugs. I do have a pair of ER Musician's Earplugs in addition to my hearing appliances; I just did not know that was the brand.
What's the craziest thing you've heard?? Do you mean the most unusual sound that the average person can't hear or the craziest thing I've heard someone say when they didn't know I could hear them?
Link to i.imgur.com. I'd say bat sonar is pretty cool. And the high kids in front of me in line last night were pretty funny.
Can you hear people fart from other rooms? What is the furthest from someone you've heard fart? Any other horrible stuff you can hear people do that they think they get away with? You guys really like farts on this site, don't you? I'm not sure. And sometimes people sing really badly when they think nobody can hear them, but I don't mind. You do you, dude.
You say that you have difficulty tuning things out. Would it be accurate to say that rather than hearing things like the average person in how they hear a lot but only listen to one thing, your brain is always listening to everything around you? Answering is my pleasure! Thanks for asking!
Does having so many sounds competing for your concentration make it difficult to speak sometimes? Yes, that would be mostly accurate. The brain of someone with typical hearing kind of picks out which sounds to listen to and which sounds to ignore on its own. From my experience, a person with Hyperacusis has to actively try to think "which of the sounds I am hearing is important?" and then work to listen to that one closely. For example, if you have younger siblings, it takes you a while as a child to learn to ignore the things they do that bother you. So, say I'm sitting in a classroom listening to the professor talk, in-my-zone and doing a fantastic job of filtering out the fluorescent lights, and the computers, and the people in the hallway. If somebody loudly snaps a three-ring binder shut right next to me, all of a sudden my brain just thinks "OUCH" and gets totally distracted by that short, sharp pain I just felt. It wasn't any ridiculous amount of pain that I can't live through, and it only lasted a second, but that was enough to totally distract me from what the professor was saying and my previous train of thought. I feel like, since I have Hyperacusis, I have to work kind of hard to have only that one sound of the professor speaking in the foreground, whereas most people's brains do it automatically. Please let me know if I misunderstood your question, and I'll try to clarify.
Thanks for answering questions btw. This is a very interesting topic that is not well known. That's another issue that I have to actively work to prevent. If I'm really tired, I'll just totally trail off mid-sentence, and my friends are totally understanding, but someone who doesn't know about the issue I have may think I'm just crazy. I really liked acting class in high school, and I performed fairly well in front of audiences, but that's probably because I was always obsessively careful about getting a LOT of sleep before performances. I was in the Pit Band during musicals, and I would say the noises interfered with my ability to play an instrument more than my ability to speak. Like I said, it all depended on how much sleep I had gotten in a quiet place beforehand. If I gave my brain some time to rest, I could act more quickly to either try to block out the sounds that hurt or recognize the beginning of the pain and just remove myself from the area.
Thanks for replying! You give really in-depth and long responses. Much more than the average AMA. Thanks for putting in the time. No problem! Like I said, my goal is to bring awareness to an issue that many people may not even know they have, so thanks for helping!
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2014.03.19 23:48 JGBrands The Lycke Chronicles IX: King

<-- previous chapter
Announcement: From now on I'll only be posting one story a day, I aim to have it out between 10 and 12 PM my time, which is to say European Standard Time.
Writing two just takes too much time every day and I feel I might get through my source material too quickly like this. While there are many, many stories to come, I just don't want to run out of it too quickly. I also think it makes for better reading if there's just one a day.
Be me, JGBrands. 14 years old, 170 cm tall and 60 kg heavy. Curly blonde hair and wears casual clothes. A skilled diplomat. Plays guitar. Has absolutely no spine. Boyfriend of Jenny. Asperger's
Be Jenny. 14 years old, 160 cm tall and 55 kg heavy. Wild, red (dyed) hair. Tasted the beast's pee. Medical situation unknown. Wears clothes you'd find in a military dump. A real rebel. My girlfriend. ADHD
Be Lycke. Hambeast that is a part-time hero. She who spikes drinks with pee, shits in lockers, pees on dresses, flips tables, dug through a barrel of frying fat. Saved Jenny from drugs. ADHD, PDD-NOS
Be Ruben. 15 years old, 175 cm tall and 70 kg. A zealous christian metalhead. Plays the drums and many other percussion instruments. Gilles de la Tourettes
Be Casper. 13 years old, 155 cm tall and 55 kg heavy. Plays bass guitar. Also really, really into metal. Friend of Ruben's. ADHD
And into the valley of death rode the beetuses.
The first month of the new year was done, already had it been an eventful year. Me and Jenny had nearly broken up after a couple of typical teenage cyber-fights. Fortunately, she decided to come by in the middle of the night, telling me she wanted to talk. She promised to never hang out with Sjors again, how she felt about the situation and that she really didn't want to leave me. All was good, we had made up. She slowly began gaining back my trust and our relationship continued, eventually stronger than before.
Lycke was a full fledged member of our circle of friends again after her rather heroic intervention. I dread to think how different things could have gone if she did not stop Angela and Jenny from going inside what looked to be a dodgy coffee shop with Sjors.
Not all was well though, although our circle of friends was once again complete with Jenny returning to it, something even worse was going to happen. Angela was hanging out with us less and less often, distancing from our group. She started coming in late for school, often just disappearing for entire days. We swore she even came in stoned out of her mind once. Naturally, we were all worried about our friend but that's for a later chapter.
Now as I mentioned in the previous chapter, I had been playing the guitar for a very long time. Me and Jenny always wanted to start a band, but we never found a drummer or bass guitar player. With the new year we decided to try again, we wrote a new note.
Guitarist and singer are looking for drummer and bass guitar player to start a band. School agrees to let us use the auditorium for practice, including their equipment. Please call or text us on 06 12345678 if you're interested!
Weeks went by without response, but eventually we got a text from Ruben. We set up to meet at the school's auditorium. We all went there, including our friends.
Me: "Hey you must be Ruben?"
Ruben: "Yup."
We shook hands and asked him about his music taste. Fortunately it seemed to mostly align with ours, although he did mention he especially liked christian metal. We asked him if he was willing to cover music from non-christian bands too. He was totally cool with that and in general came off as a really awesome guy. We hit it off nicely, and quickly became friends.
Ruben eventually introduced us to Casper. Casper was a really, really short dude with black, fat hair that clung to his face. He had this smug, coy look on his face almost constantly. A bit like a mischievous imp. Casper played bass guitar.
Now a complete band, we decided on a name. We quickly decided the name should be King read: I demanded as I was really into Queen back then. I thought the name was a cute reference and could work just as well for a metal band.
We started jamming every day after school from there on out. We quickly learned to play well with one another. Ruben was a wonder on the drums, he had this uncanny feeling for rhythm and was by far a more talented musician than I am. If anyone, Casper and Jenny were the weaker members of the band, but it didn't matter. We had a lot of fun and we played well.
This quickly started attracting the attention of other kids in the school, who would come hang out in the auditorium and listen to us play, it became a bit of a social gathering for metal heads. It was generally cool and the teachers allowed it to happen, even if the auditorium wasn't really meant for that. No one else made use of it anyway (aside from music classes and projects).
In particular we covered music from Rage Against the Machine and Iron Maiden. Well, I say cover, but really we gave it our best shot. We simplified parts so that the entire band could play it.
One particular night, we were really getting into it. We were practicing Killing in the Name. It was really something to behold. Jen really, really gets into these things, especially at the end, just screaming "FUCK YOU!" into the microphone.
Like I said, we were really into RATM back then. I even wrote on my guitar (with black tape) "ARM THE PEOPLE" in a very Morello-esque fashion.
People were having a great time until Lycke decided to call her goth friends on the phone. A good fifteen minutes later, her circles of Gothic friends decided to come over to our rehearsal. They were a lot older than all of us, with ages ranging from 18 to 24. We knew if the teachers found out that grown ups had come onto the terrain of our school, we could kiss our usage of the auditorium goodbye.
Feeling rather intimidated by the grown ups, I decided to leave it be, but Jenny sure as hell didn't. She put the microphone away and hopped off the stage and walked over to them.
Jenny: "You guys got to go, you can't be here. We'd lose our practice room."
GothicFatty: "C'mon it's cool."
Lycke: "Yeah they're my friends. Don't worry about it."
Jenny: "It's not allowed, the teachers told us not to."
GothicFatty: "Aww c'mon. You sing about defying the government but yet you're an obedient little peon for your teachers? Not cool."
This hit Jenny where it hurt, obviously. Like I said, she was a rebel and felt, at the time, quite strong resonance with the lyrics of Rage against the Machine. Defeated, she walked back on stage and sat down, asking for a break.
GothicFatty, a guy looking to be about 21 and about as obese as Lycke decided to order pizza. Another guy, looking to be about 24 got closer to Lycke, they started making out. After about ten minutes, one of them decides to light a joint and another goes outside for a while. Eventually returning with a crate of beer.
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Seeing the usage of alcohol and drugs, we quickly knew we had to do something. Informing the teachers wasn't an option of course. We didn't want to lose our practice area.
Eventually we (the band) gathered our courage and walked over to them. It turns out three of them were already drunk from earlier, and I don't mean a little bit either. Jenny once again taking the lead, definitely the alpha of our groups.
Jenny: "You guys are going to fucking leave right now."
GothicLover (the guy Lycke kissed): "Or what?"
Jenny: "I'm going to call the police and tell them you've raped Lycke."
Lycke: "He didn't do that! Why would you say that?!"
Jenny: "Well you invited them and he's like ten years older than you. What the fuck!? That's disgusting!"
Lycke: "Look who's talking drugs whore."
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This pissed Jenny off quite a bit. "LEAVE. NOW."
This was the point where GothicFatty pushed Jenny away. "No, go fuck yourself. We're staying."
Me: "Don't you touch my girlfriend you fat fuck."
GothicFatty: "Oh look, it speaks."
GothicFatty made a step towards me and I backed the fuck off.
The gothics laughed.
Lycke: "Man, you're such a wimp. No wonder Jenny keeps going with guys that have some balls."
Ouch, nice way to play on the fact I'm still pretty untrusting of Jenny.
Me: "Jen... is that true?"
Jenny: "No. Of course not."
I can't say I believed her, though I should have. She wasn't a liar.
At this point the pizzas arrived and the Gothics began to eat, we decided to back off for now and figured that this just wasn't working. I started to have an argument with Jenny over what Lycke said and actually dumped her (not for long).
Jenny burst into tears at this point and stormed off to the group of Gothics, this time unleashed with fury.
Jenny: "YOU NEED TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!"
Lycke: "No, we're having fun. You guys aren't playing anymore anyway."
GothicFatty: "Something wrong? Did your boyfriend dump you cause you're a slut?"
Jenny: "SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH!"
With that she grabbed his pizza from the box and threw it right in his face.
GothicFatty screams as hot, molten cheese clings onto his face.
GothicLover, now in a drunken rage tries to grab Jenny, but she dodges it.
She runs and he goes after her.
I try to get in his way as he runs past me.
Bad idea, I get smacked in the face and fall to the floor.
I watch as Jen runs away. GothicLover then does something bad.
He grabs the guitar from the stand throws it after Jenny.
It smashes to pieces against the wall.
At this point, a teacher decides to come check up on us and probably tell us to start wrapping up as the school is about to close. The door opens and everyone comes to a stand still as MsCarpenter begins to yell.
MsCarpenter: "What is going on here?!"
Jenny runs towards her and hides behind her.
GothicLover comes to a stop.
MsCarpenter: "And who are you?"
GothicLover stammers out his name.
MsCarpenter: "And what is a 24 year old man doing at a high school? These are private grounds."
GothicLover points out he's Lycke's boyfriend.
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MsCarpenter: "Well, is that so mister GothicLover. And you are aware that Lycke is fourteen years old? Would you also like to tell me why miss Jenny is running away from you and why mister JGBrands is on the floor?"
GothicLover: "It was an accident, we were just having a bit of a wrestle."
Meanwhile my nose bleeds profusely. Jenny runs over and helps me up. Ruben hands me a handkerchief and I hold it against my nose.
MsCarpenter: "Oh? An accident? Well, I suppose I will accidentally call the police then; which I well then - accidentally of course - tell that we have a pedophile running around our school that's physically abusing students - accidentally of course."
GothicLover: "No-no! That's not how it is! Please don't call we'll le-"
MsCarpenter: "Shut your mouth, man child. Be glad I'm calling the police rather than smacking you around with the remains of that broken guitar."
MsCarpenter is a fucking badass.
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MsCarpenter then tries to call the cops, but GothicLover makes the dumb mistake - in his drunk fit - to try and steal the phone from her.
MsCarpenter swiftly delivers the tip of her high heels into his crotch.
GothicLover falls to his knees in pain and begins to cry.
Eventually the police came. GothicLover got arrested and turned out to be someone the police had an eye for a while now, being suspected of being a lover boy. They had to pay for the damages to the equipment.
Our school decided to be cool about it and lets us keep using the auditorium, but only if a teacher is there. Luckily we learned that our Physics Teacher is a major metalhead and gladly would sit there, checking homework while we were jamming out.
Lycke once again drops out of circle of friends. She didn't get expelled, but I am sure she has been lectured quite hard by both family and the school.
Jenny and I made up and got together again pretty much right after the mess was solved and we had some time to calm down. We made out like crazy and decided to go visit the movies, she stayed over, it was good.
tl;dr: We start a band. Lycke invites over a bunch of drunk goth friends that are like 10 years older than us. They become violent. MsCarpenter comes in and delivers a swift kick to the balls.
One of my favourite stories, I hope you enjoyed it. As always, please let me know if you got any feedback or criticism about my writing style.
See you next time, peace out!
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2014.03.06 18:33 MS50racereport Carl Touchstone MS 50 race report, 3/1/14

I learned a lot from reading everyone else's race reports, whether from this race or any other ultra, both on blogs and this sub reddit. Here is my race report from the MS 50 mile run from Saturday, March 1, 2014. Sorry this is super long, but maybe someone will find it helpful. Let me know if you have any questions.
Background
I’m still not really sure when or why I decided to attempt to run 50 miles. I was training for a marathon in mid-December, and I was trying to break 4 hours. That marathon came and went, and the sub 4 didn’t happen, which was pretty discouraging since I felt that goal was easily attainable. My marathon PR was from 2 years ago, a 4:04, and I had been training consistently and without injuries. It was quite discouraging to start off 50 mile training on a failed race attempt, but I knew that I liked trail running more than road running .My roommate, Mindy, and I had talked about doing 50 miles at some point, so why not now? We decided to just go for it. The good thing about this race is that you can change distance options while you are running the course, so if nothing else, we could run a really strong 50k. I’ve heard that this course is a great first 50, fairly flat and not technical. Other possibly relevant info: I have been running roads since 2009, trails since 2011. I’m 26, female, 5’1, 125lbs. I have completed 3 50ks on the trails and 4 road marathons. PRs: trails - 5:44 50k (2014), 2:07 half (2013), roads - 1:41 half (2014), 23:13 5k (2013).
Training
I did a lot of research and made my training plan on my own. It was basically a marathon plan with back to back long runs. My goal was to do one of my long runs on the road and the other on the trails. I know trail runners don’t always taper as long as road runners, but I wanted to give myself a longer taper because I knew I would end up doing a lot of my runs on the roads, and also because I wanted to try to “race” a half marathon on 2/16. I only included mileage for my long runs in the plan, scheduled for Saturday and Sunday. Between work and the weather and life, I knew I would most likely just end up running when I can and I didn’t want to beat myself up about only hitting 5 miles instead of 7 on any given day. I ended up running nearly every day from December 16- February 28 with only a couple of days off. Pasted from my excel sheet, sorry I didn't bother to format here:
16-Dec Mon 6.0 17-Dec Tue 6.3 18-Dec Wed 5.0 19-Dec Thu 3.0 20-Dec Fri 3.0 21-Dec Sat 13.5 22-Dec Sun 9.4 23-Dec Mon 4.0 24-Dec Tue 5.0 25-Dec Wed 2.0 26-Dec Thu 5.0 27-Dec Fri 3.0 28-Dec Sat 16.0 29-Dec Sun 14.0 30-Dec Mon 3.0 31-Dec Tue 6.5 1-Jan Wed 5.0 2-Jan Thu 0.0 3-Jan Fri 4.5 4-Jan Sat 18.5 5-Jan Sun 15.8 6-Jan Mon 4.0 7-Jan Tue 4.5 8-Jan Wed 5.0 9-Jan Thu 3.5 10-Jan Fri 1.0 11-Jan Sat 13.5 12-Jan Sun 8.0 13-Jan Mon 3.0 14-Jan Tue 5.5 15-Jan Wed 3.0 16-Jan Thu 5.5 17-Jan Fri 3.0 18-Jan Sat 31.0 19-Jan Sun 5.0 20-Jan Mon 6.0 21-Jan Tue 6.0 22-Jan Wed 5.0 23-Jan Thu 3.0 24-Jan Fri 5.0 25-Jan Sat 20.0 26-Jan Sun 13.1 27-Jan Mon 5.5 28-Jan Tue 6.5 29-Jan Wed 19.0 30-Jan Thu 20.7 31-Jan Fri 2.0 1-Feb Sat 9.5 2-Feb Sun 0.0 3-Feb Mon 3.0 4-Feb Tue 5.0 5-Feb Wed 5.0 6-Feb Thu 5.0 7-Feb Fri 4.0 8-Feb Sat 14.8 9-Feb Sun 9.0 10-Feb Mon 3.0 11-Feb Tue 5.0 12-Feb Wed 7.0 13-Feb Thu 6.5 14-Feb Fri 3.0 15-Feb Sat 2.5 16-Feb Sun 15.0 17-Feb Mon 7.6 18-Feb Tue 5.0 19-Feb Wed 5.0 20-Feb Thu 5.0 21-Feb Fri 4.0 22-Feb Sat 10.0 23-Feb Sun 8.0 24-Feb Mon 3.0 25-Feb Tue 6.0 26-Feb Wed 3.0 27-Feb Thu 4.0 28-Feb Fri 1.0
Many of those runs were only 1-3 miles, but I tried to average ~50 miles a week. I did have a couple of weeks in the 40s though. My peak weekend mileage was scheduled for 22 on Saturday and 17 on Sunday, a full month out from the race. I live in the south, and the snow happened right around my peak training week. Since I was off work on Wednesday and Thursday and everything else was closed, we decided we would do our runs in the snow. We wore our trail shoes to help with traction, and we had to shorten our stride a lot to not fall down. It was very similar to trail running, actually. We ended up running 19 and 20.7. We ran by Mindy’s parents’ house on the other side of town for an aid station stop – hot chocolate and veggie chilli, yum! The cold/snow weather seemed to have negatively impacted a lot of people’s training. Since I don’t have kids and was given unplanned for days off work, it was a huge advantage for me, and I was able to get my weekly mileage in the lower 60s a couple of times. I hate the cold, but I loved running in the snow! I am also lucky to have a roommate/friend doing this thing with me, as well as an awesome running community on both the trails and the roads, so I was rarely alone on my long runs unless I wanted to be. The trail group was a great motivator to get up for 5:30 am trail runs during the week. Although these were shorter, 5-6 mile runs, I definitely pushed myself on those runs by running with different people who are faster than me and have been running longer. It was a welcomed challenge, and I learned a lot from running with such an experienced group.
I quickly realized, and as you can see above, it was sometimes difficult to hit the specific distance totals on each weekend day. Instead, I focused on weekend mileage total. Sometimes the split was what I had scheduled, sometimes it was not. Either way, I was running on tired legs and getting the miles in, which I guess was the point. I did speed work when I could (that was one thing that was hard to do in the snow, though!). I did mile repeats, 400 repeats, 800 repeats, and hill sprints – never doing more than 3 miles (excluding warm up/cool down). The speed work was not really relevant, but I wanted to keep it so I wouldn’t get bored and also in preparation for that half.
Training – nutrition
I don’t use gels. I know from trail races that I can handle real food when I run, and I would much rather consume calories that I can actually chew. During a race, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and bananas are a must for me. I thought these were a given in trail races, but the 50k we did in January did not have either of those things, and I could feel myself crashing without potassium. For my long training runs, I brought along Fig Bars from Costco that I would eat as needed, but I found that I didn’t really need to eat for anything less than 18 miles. I eat a mostly vegetarian diet, with some fish occasionally, and I supplement with fish oil and magnesium. I try to eat clean 80% of the time, but I love chocolate chip cookies, and with all the holidays and cold weather, I didn’t really restrict myself as much as I probably should have. I also don’t eat before morning runs, including long races.
Cross training
I have always been active, and I love to exercise! So in addition to running, I did Pure Barre 4-6 times a week, yoga 2-3 times a week, indoor bouldering when I felt like it, and taught a spin class once a week. Pure Barre is the perfect complement to running for me. My whole body is stronger than it has ever been. I can go to Pure Barre nearly everyday and get in a great workout, but I am also still able to get in a great run later on. I found Pure Barre after a foot injury (I dropped a barbell plate on my toe while strength training in 2012), and I have been injury free ever since! Pure Barre focuses on small, isometric movements that target your thighs, glutes, and core – all of which are important for running. I know I need to strength train, but has never been something I enjoyed until I discovered Pure Barre. Another benefit from Pure Barre is the ankle strength I’ve gained from all the standing up on my toes. When I first started trail running, my biggest issue was rolling my ankles. I was a swimmer before I was a runner. As a result, my ankles were very flexible, but not very strong, which is not an ideal combination for trail running. Now my ankles are strong, and I haven’t rolled my ankle in years. Pure Barre is super expensive, but it’s so worth it to me to be strong and injury free.
Pre-race
I ate my pre-race meal on Thursday night (roasted sweet potatoes and lentil taco salad). The race is about 3.5 hours away, so I worked a half day on Friday to make sure we would make it in time for packet pick up and (free) pre-race dinner. Throughout the morning, I tried to make sure I was drinking water as much as possible, and I drank two cups of hot water with lemon to clear myself out. We were primitive camping Friday night, so I wanted to be as empty as possible because I knew there wouldn’t be a bathroom there, and I probably wouldn’t be able to successfully shit in the woods. I got off work around noon, we packed everything up, and we made it to the pre-race suppepacket pick up around 5:15. Packet pick up was in Laurel at the fairgrounds. The building was really cold, and I was glad to have my jacket. They were serving pasta, salad, and dessert. They had an option for veggie sauce! I used my salad bowl as my pasta bowl so I wouldn’t overdo it, and used the big plate for a huge salad. I couldn’t resist a chocolate chip cookie, of course. We stuck around and listened to pre-race announcements. They had door prizes that a guy just randomly walked around and handed out to people. I got a pair of Smart Wool socks, and Mindy got a coupon for a free Road ID. We tried to use the bathroom one more time, and then off we went to the start/finish area where we would camp.
My boyfriend, Brian, and my dog, Rider, came along, and we decided that we would try to sleep in my Subaru. We had never done this before, since I have only had the car for just a little under a year. Mindy ended up forgetting her tent, so she used our tent which we brought along just in case and also to have an area to change in. We were in bed by 8:30. Several other people were camping out before the start, too. I slept about as well as I thought I would, which was not great. The combination of car camping and pre-race nerves was not ideal. I knew that would be the case going in though, and we had opted to camp instead of get a hotel because the nearest hotels were still about a 30 minute drive and the run started at 6am. Also, moneys!
5:15 rolled around and I got up, changed into my running clothes (lululemon speed shorts, lululemon swiftly short sleeve, lululemon bra with pockets, swiftwick socks, zensah compression sleeves, and an offbrand buff), tried and failed to poop, packed my drop bag, and filled up my hydration pack with water and snacks (Costco fig bars and sour patch kids, yum). I stuffed my sansa MP3 player in my bra, which was loaded up with a STS9 concert and a couple of podcasts. For my drop bag, I packed two extra pairs of shoes and socks. One pair of shoe was my road shoe because it has a zero drop, and my trail shoes with a 4mm drop (New Balance WT20v2) had been hurting the top of my foot for longer runs. I also packed some extra snacks – more fig bars and sour patch kids, extra bananas (just in case), and some clementines. I ditched my long sleeve layer into the drop bag right before the start, met up with some more local trail buddies, and off we went!
Race
The race is three long (12.5 mile) loops and two short (6.2 mile) loops.
The first two loops were easy and fun. I think our spilts ended up something like 2:23 for lap 1 and 2:26 for lap 2. Mindy and I stuck with our trail buddies, shared stories, laughed, and cheered on other runners on one section that had and out and back. We played a “drinking game” where we would have to hydrate each time someone said anything about mud or water. Each loop had 3 aid stations, one of which you passed twice on the out and back. The first one was the furthest away, just a little over 4 miles, I believe. My strategy for nutrition is always a pb&j square and piece of banana. I’ll also grab whatever else looks good at the time, usually orange slices, pretzels, or cookies. This race had animal crackers, which quickly became my favorite. I also try to drink at least one full cup of heed.
The course was muddy and the water crossings were up to my knees at some points. Some you could avoid by going around, but by the second loop everything was a muddy mess and it really didn’t make that much difference either way. This was apparently a dry year, too. Other than the mud, the trails were easy, wide, and not technical, as promised. The trails appeared to have mile markers, which was disappointing. I am not a fan of knowing how far I’ve gone, especially when there are so many miles to cover. That’s one of the appeals of trail running to me. I tried to zone out and pretend they didn’t exist as best as I could though. I fell twice from slipping in the mud, and I still have scratches all over from running into several briars. The top of my right foot had started to bother me about halfway through the second loop, as expected. Before starting lap 3, I stopped at my drop bag to change socks and shoes. I went for my road shoes (Brooks Pure Drift), feeling pretty confident that my foot pain would no longer be an issue in my zero drops. Off we went again. We quickly lost the rest of our group between pee breaks and simply just slowing down. That third loop was the hardest. The trail seemed even muddier. It was hot. The sun was directly overhead now. We didn’t think about needing sunglasses for a trail run, but there was about a 3 mile stretch where sunglasses would have been a really nice thing to have. By now, the 20/50k folks had finished, so it was just us 50 milers out there. We walked a lot, probably more than we should. Somehow we got through it. Our final long loop was 2:55.
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2014.02.22 00:42 tabledresser [Table] IAmA: I'm international DJ, producer, songwriter, and all 'round music freak TyDi. AMA!

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Weirdest things that happened during a gig? Fell over on stage and cut my foot open on glass, promoter had to carry me to the hospital in Malta :P.
What are your personal opinions on the latest "Big-room house" craze and how do you think the whole "copy-paste" attitude effects the business as a whole? I think you kinda nailed it with the 'copy paste' remark... the sound is boring, typical, overdone and really does all sound the same. I remember when my dad used to say 'dance music all sounds the same' and that was 10 years ago... I used to think he was crazy. Now because of 'big room house' I can finally agree with him.
Whats up TyDi, What do you think it is that separates the people who go out and achieve at the highest levels from those who don't? Good question - The ones who do go out and achieve at their highest levels are often very ambitious, but it doesn't mean they are better people. They are driven, but some of the most incredible people I've ever met are doing 'normal' things. If one considers anything in life normal.
Hey TyDi, why do u drink so much?? R u in a relationship at this moment? And what is your favorite car?? Thx! Loves it. 2. It's complicated 3. Audi R8.
Hey mate, where do you see yourself 5 years from now? The last five years have been well pretty big for you and your style as definitely evolved from the tracks on Look Closer. I'm going to be in a serious relationship with Emma Stone, we may also be open to allowing Scarlett Johansson into the equation.
1) What is your favorite dessert? 2) What is your favorite desert? Lol, I will not dignify this question :P.
Did you ever get a blowjob while Dj'ing simultaneously? Under the radar. Not yet, would you like to be the first?
off, Vanilla is an incredible song and my introduction to you when it was played on ASOT. My question: How do you design your signature sounding bass? Great question! Vanilla's bass was actually made from a few baseline synths that I chopped up into pieces and 'bit-crushed' :)
Will you ever play at A State of Trance event again? If Armin invites me... He hasn't lately. Trance fans are very picky. Obviously I love trance and produce a lot of it! But I also love to make other genres too.. so I like my fans to be extremely openminded. The other night I dropped Blink 182 in my set!!
Hey I was at your SEATTLE show for V-DAY!! Are u ever high when performing? If show drug of choice? Thanks! No I don't do drugs actually... but I do drink a lot.
Thing you miss most about Australia? Probably my friends and family :(
How did you get in contact for the first time with BT? Long time since you have not been on ASOT?Any issue with ARMADA? BT once hit me up for a remix, he loved it and we started working together. Since then we'd been good friends! I'm probably not on ASOT because Armin seems to only push Armada artists and pure trance, my music these days is a lot more free.. it doesn't have rules and I don't mind branching out into any style I want. I'd love for him to keep playing my music but they didn't ask me to play ASOT again because I wasn't exactly 'trance' apparently. No issue with Armada though as I just released 'Hotel Rooms' with them. I guess it's more a stylistic thing and possibly business related. I love those guys though and without Armin I wouldn't have the fans I do now.
What do you atribute the relatively recent edm boom in the US to? You think most recent "edm" fans actually enjoy the music, or do you believe its related to many people having discovered mdma even though its been around for 30+ years? I actually think they've found a new genre of music and they love it. It certainly helped that David Guetta crossed it over with pop because that eased the US people into it ;)
What programs do you use? How did you get your start? I produce everything on Logic Pro :) I got my start by being a general music geek in school and pursuing what I always wanted to do ;)
Do you have anymore plans to release anything along the lines of Hotel Rooms in the future? I love the different sound. Absolutely, I'm going to do a follow up album to Hotel Rooms in the future after I release my new ReDefined album :)
Have you completed The Last Of Us, yet? If so, what did you think of the ending? Loved it and can't wait for the sequel :)
Come to San Francisco! I think you doing a show in a few days or weeks from. Love your stuff. San Fran in March :)
I remember you saying about you dislike ghost producers alot what are you views about producers like Dash Berlin having a ghost producer? Dash doesn't have a ghost producer, they ARE 3 people. WIKI them, Dash used to be Venga boys too.. they are super talented. It's a common misconception that Dash is one guy but in fact Geoffrey is just the DJ, there is also 2 other guys in the team of DB.
There was a reddit post a few months ago about you having problems with Sean Tyas is that true? I don't have any beed with Sean Tyas, I read that somewhere too. Every time I've met him we've been friends. So I think it's just a rumour. Unless there's something he's not telling me?
What's your favorite city to perform in and why is it Seattle? (Seriously though your Valentine's Day set was incredible!) Lol thanks! I do love Seattle!
Tydi!!! Hope you still are there, but you were amazing at paradiso! How was playing main stage??? An chances you'll be back this year? Heya! Not back this year sorry :( but don't worry we have BIG plans for Seattle later this year ;)
Hi! I love your music! If you weren't a musician, what other profession would you have? And, do you like coffee? Heya! Firstly thank you! I'd probably have to do something else creative, but I'm not sure what it would be. Coffee... not really but I drink it for the effects.
What made you want to live in Los Angeles? And welcome!! Thank you so much!!! I had to move their because my fans are mostly in America these days and my publisher / management / agency are all based there :)
When's the next time you're going to perform in the SF Bay Area or Sacramento? I haven't been able to attend any of your last couple of performances :( PS. I love your collabs with Kerli! I'll be playing in SF in March!! :D.
Why do you always DJ shoeless? Also what's the hotel key count up to? Helps give that 'living room' vibe... takes away nerves :)
Hey Tydi. Do you remember getting chased down the road by a scary man waving a bottle in kawana like 10 years ago? I think you may have just finished High school at the time. Yes I do, that scared the shit out of me... Who was that???
What are the most traits that u appreciate in a person in general?? Do u Hv many friends?? What do u like to do for fun?? Like to dance!:) I appreciate intellectual honesty! Anyone who isn't ashamed to say the truth.
I respect intellectual honesty :)
Thanks for being amazing, and for KILLING IT in Seattle on Valentine's day! Are we going to see you at the main stage at Paradiso again??? No, thank YOU!! That's amazing that you care so much X.
What's the craziest thing on your rider? My rider is simple actually, champagne, vodka and some mixers :)
What's your story of becoming a professional producer ? How old were you? I started when I was 15, I've just been continually addicted to music and never stopped.
That would take a big answer, I'd say check out my wikipedia because it seems to know a lot more about me than I do ;)
Two questions! 1) if you stopped DJing tomorrow which cities would you miss visiting all the time? 2) there are a lot of producers who see one hit and decide to make their own variation of it (i.e. Cannonball and everything that sounds like it) is it hard to stay original in such a super competitive atmosphere? 1) I'd miss LA a LOT!!! My manager is there and he's one of my best mates.
2) No would never wanna copy someone's work, but I wouldn't lie and say I'm not inspired things I hear from time to time :)
Would you say Zyzz contributed to your fame? Absolutely! :)
Do you smoke? If so, Blunts or Joints? Neither... Not into that man. Tried, makes me paranoid. I'm just a drinker :)
Hey Tydi thanks for the AMA, for you what's the most difficult part of producing? Was the transition of scoring in music school to producing on computer software significant for you, or have you been making music on the computer throughout your DJing career? My fav thing about producing / writing is creating something that never existed before. No physical objects needed, just ideas.
Hi Ty, what makes you laugh & are you a ticklish guy? If so, where & do you have ticklish feet? :) I usually laugh at great comedy, not so ticklish on the feet though. Def around my sides though!
What's the ratio of tyDi songs that you start/songs that end up being released? And what are your solutions for overcoming creativity blocks? I wrote about 200 songs to end up with my final new album 'ReDefined' which is out in April! :)
Hi TyDi ! I'm a french fan! Have you ever come to France? And will you be present at asot 700 in Netherlands next year ? I've never been there yet :( would love to though!!
Are you going to come back for PARADISO 2014? You won my 'Artist I didn't know much about but impressed me the most' award at The Gorge for PARADISO 2013 so I hope you do. Thanks so much! I won't be back for Paradiso but... Let me tell you something BIG is being planned for me in that area ;) Soon...
Hi Tyson, When you first started to produce electronic music, did you ever go through a phase where you thought to yourself "This is too hard/I give up"? Nope not really, was always addicted.
Why you haven't been ïn Czech Republic for so long? :( Good question! Girls there are HOT!!! :) But seriously... when a really good tour is routed through that area there will be no way I'm turning it down.
Hi there ! Im a young , female producer from Norway (13 years old) and i was asking myself, cause I has produced beats for over 7 years , and I'm listening to your songs everyday:) what inspires you to make music most of all? Music is just so powerful, it acts like a drug.. it takes you back to the times you remember most in love. That's my inspiration :) Good luck and never stop dreaming :) X.
What was it like working on Stem the Tides and Tonight with BT on his album A Song Across Wires? Incidentally, Stem the Tides is still my favorite song on the whole album. I have high hopes for future remixes! It was so much fun! Anything with BT is amazing... he's a genius! I have some exciting stuff coming out soon :) Get ready for the new 'ReDefined' album ;) ;)
Do you plan on releasing live sets sometime in the near future? Particularly the set when you were in Seattle. I need to hear The Killers mix one more time! I'm thinking of making my 'Global Soundsystem' podcast ALL live music :)
Hi Tydi, love all of your music, Shooting Stars is still a regular play at parties. I was wondering if you had plans for any future collaboration with Sarah Howells? Thanks! Heya! Nothing in the works yet but my new album 'ReDefined' is about to drop in April... it has some INSANE vocalists ;) Get ready!
Saw you at Paradiso 2013 when you got moved to main stage. You were awesome so glad you got moved to main stage. Quick question what do you think of the current state of EDM with everybody copying the Martin Garrix sound? Is it good or should the scene move on from that genre? And secondly, I hate the new movement in EDM where nobody is being original.. this whole 'bangers' phase is what drove me to create the 'Hotel Rooms' album. I appreciate original artists :) I think that helped me a lot at Paradiso!
Besides the 3 songs you've released feat Kerli and Perfect Crush. have recorded other songs? Nope, just a whole new album coming out this year ;)
Hey TyDi, with all these big room house tracks being produced nowadays that all sound the same...when do you think this "EDM bubble" is going to burst? Also if you could have a night with Scarlett Johansson, but it had to be a devil's three-way with another dj/producer who would you pick? Hey man, it won't burst quick if people stay innovative and keep it progressing :) As for Scarlett... I couldn't share her under any circumstance. Alright maybe with a another chick DJ haha.
Do you have any plans, to do a concert in New Zealand? in the future? I know so many people who would attend! lol. Absolutely! I should stop there on my way back to Australia for the next tour :)
I'm not sure, I'd love to do that but I'd need to see a solid fan base in NZ who want me to visit :)
Thank you for greater heights, fell in love with it the first time i played it. Any plans to work with Jennifer Rene & Tenishia again? Yep there's a new song with Jen Rene coming out on my album this year! :)
Does the song "we will rock you " get you rock hard like it does me? Haha full on.
Hey TyDi! I saw you at Paradiso and last week on Valentines Day. I just have to say your Blink 182 mashup was AMAZING! What a way to end a beautiful night! Question, what was it like at Paradiso, when you planned on playing at a side stage for a much smaller croud, then find out you're to play on main stage. Any last minute changes or preperations you had to make? Aww thank you! I never plan my shows.. I must say I knew I was going to finish on the Blink 182 mash for Valentines day (I made that on the flight over) but besides that I always my sets up on the spot.
Hi Tydi:) Im 27 year old and im emloyed in some office doing some shity work i really hate. i realised that i never imagined my life in that way. I love trance music sooo much and want to become DJ/producer. But the thing is,im just a begginer(doing some bedroom mixes-but they sound great for a begginer:)) and im not sure wheather i can become succesful dj . Is it best for me to say fuck all this im quiting my job and im starting to do what i really love? or to take it easy and do both job and djing until im sure i can live only from djing? Dude its never too late, the things you'll regret the most are the times you sat back and did nothing.
TyDi! You were awesome during your set at Mainstage Paradiso! Any future collabs with Tana Zygar!? You two work really well together! Nothing planned yet but I'd love to in the future :)
Loved your Cher remix! Did you get to meet her? What more mainstream musicians would you want to work with? Thanks! I enjoyed working on the Cher remix!! She's cool :) I'd love to work with Katy Perry!!!
heard you when you released "Half light" loved it! Wish you could make it to Denver, we rarely get some bumping trance DJ's. If there is any, what would you say is your biggest pet peeve about being a DJ? (I'm sure all the traveling maybe?) Haha my least fav thing is all the travel, airports and jet lag.
You mentioned that the sounds in some of your songs are done by the use of marbles. I love this! Any other secret sound effects you'd like to share? Wayyy too many to name, but I record a LOT of live instruments ;)
Do you plan on revisiting tyDi fashion? I loved the shirts, and was sad to see the site disappear. Absolutely! It's coming back this year! Bigger and better!
Hey tyDi, big fan of yours from Perth. Your track "Calling" with Audrey Gallagher was a big part of the reason I originally got interested in trance and EDM. Why the permanent move to LA from Brisbane and how do you think this will affect your career? Well it had to be done... Australia's dance scene is becoming very 'unmusical' - Just an overdose of 'bangers'. America has embraced my very 'melodic' style. I can play anything I want here, also I sell out shows a lot all over the the states, Australia just has a different taste I think. I will come back for lots of tours though, it's always home to me :)
Hey TyDi! I'm a big fan and I love Hotel Rooms! What do you think about the current direction of trance and its future? Heya! Well it's certainly merged with other genres now. 'Pure 138' trance is kind of gone which is a bit sad but I know a few who still support it. I always have my 'trance' roots that come through in my new songs, they may be other styles too but always with feeling!
Hi from home, TyDi! What's it like working with BT? Any crazy stories? He's just a super talented dude! Love working with him :)
What are your thoughts on ghost writing/producing? Most people know my thoughts on it... It's just straight up lying to fans. Cowards do it, or the ones who just are not capable of making a good song themselves (so they pay others)...
Hi tydi. Love your hotel room album. Who are your inspirations both musically and generally? Thank you!! I'm often inspired by rock bands. Check out my 'Rock Mix' of 'Live This Lie'!!! The new single 'Stay' is kinda indie folk crossed with dance.
I'm an aspiring trance artist myself and my question to you is: How do you normally start a song? I struggle with knowing where to start whether it's with the breakdown or the "drop" or anywhere else for that matter. Any tips you have would be much appreciated! I usually always start on the piano, with chords and a nice melody. That's the basis for a song, then you can think about vocals or synth sounds..etc.
Nothing to ask, just wanted to thank you for the great music and please keep producing trance! P.S. World's apart is, in my opinion, your best so far, and one of my all time favourites. Thanks so much! World Apart isn't trance but it's very melodic. I think you'll find most of my work will be melodic, lots of genres though ;)
Hey, been a long time fan and just want know why don't you play more of your older tracks like on the latest Global Soundsystem? Really would love if you made more tracks like the ones from Look Closer or even earlier. Hey thanks! I do sometimes play my older tracks... but obviously I want to play a lot of my newest work too! :) Keep things progressing!
How much collaboration do you do with BT and what influence has he had on your music? Quite a lot, we've done a few songs together and we wrote them at his place in the studio. He's had a big influence on my sound.
Love your music mate! Any chance you're coming to Cairns (qld) for a set anytime soon? Thank you!! Not soon bro, right now I'm based in America so I'm doing lots of touring over here :)
Have You ever Visited India...? Sure have! I've toured India about 5 times. There's plans for a new tour this year actually :D
What were the steps you took to get to where you are now? Check out Wiki, 10 years of doing nothing but writing, producing and playing shows :)
Have you ever been in a three way? On a more serious note though I'd like to just thank you for your shooting stars album it really is a touching album that gave me the feels. Keep doing what you do Tyson! Yes. Thank you so much! I'm glad you love Shooting Stars!! Much appreciated!!!
Other than your own collaborations on BT's A Song Across Wires, what's your favourite/most influential track? It's not by me, it's the Henry Saiz remix of 'Daniel' by Bat for Lashes :)
Any random producing tip(s)? Take a break every 40 mins, you'll come back with new ideas ;)
In your opinion where r the most beautiful women? In the Reddit office.
IMO its Australia I've never been but I've met about ten Australian women and they r all down to earth, great style, cute accents, and super sexy!! Every country has it's perks...
What is the best software to use as an up and coming DJ? I do love working on Logic X, you should check it out! :)
How did you like Seattle? That show was tooo fun. Nuts! Always love Seattle and so happy that it sold out!!
Hey TyDi do you know when you'll be going to Ibiza this summer? I want to schedule my trip around it! Not sure but I'll most likely announce on twitter :D
So my friend was kicked out of your Seattle Show for sneaking in BOOZE so I only saw 10 minuets of your set. If you only had one track of yours for me to listen to what would it be? The collab I did with BT called 'Stem The Tides' :)
Do you need an assistant? I need employment, hire me for something, anything please. I m just joking, but it would serious be awesome if I could say I work for tyDi Hehe at the moment I'm sweet, but thank you!! :)
Since i added it too late up there: You think you and fellow (beautiful) countrywoman Emma Hewitt are ever gonna do a collab? I LOVE Emma... Maybe one day if she's keen :)
I saw you for the first time at Vessel in SF on 10/18/13!! You are amazing! My favorite track by you is your remix of The Light in Things by BT. My question is, what is your favorite track that you've had a hand in? My fav track right now is my new one ;) #Stay!
TyDi, how can I get your autograph? I want to get one so bad. Love ya! Come to a show and get right up the front :)
Saw you live here in Manila during the Bigfish event last year. Any memorable moments for that night? Oh that ROCKED! I'll be back soon I think ;)
What TRACK is on repeat on your ipod or mp3? Listening to a lot of Blink 182 lately
What is your System Configuration? Mac Pro, specced out to the max... ;)
When are you coming back to Australia to perform? :D We miss you!! When the time is right ;)
YO TYSON. I'm from Edmonton. You might remember me from... that time with the statue? See you when you come to town mate. Let's get it ooonnn :P.
Hey there! I was wondering if there are any up-and-coming artist you are keeping an eye on? Frank Pole and Bl3r :)
Whats song makes feel like your up on the stars? Mr Tiddles by Sasha
Your remix of Peace Sign by Lights is one of my favorites! Any way you can drop that remix in Dallas at Lizard Lounge? :3 It would be awesome! Maybe I will ;)
As a fellow Sunny Coast person. What's your favourite place on the coast? Mooloolaba ;)
Best person you've performed with? BT.
So are we getting married when you come to Dallas, because I won't forget the time you said you wanted to on twitter <3. Possibly, you'll have to wine and dine me first ;)
+1 for this. It can be tough to be called over to replace a missing headliner, but TyDi killed it. From my vantage point up on the grassy hill, I think everyone that gave you a chance long enough to get going was loving it. Cheers! Means a lot to me :)
You Walk Away just came on Pandora and a second later I see you're doing an AMA. No real question just thought it was a funny coincidence and wanted to say Hi...sooo HI!! Haha nice! Happy to hear :)
Hey tyDi, just want to say I saw you at ASOT 500 in Sydney and you smashed the decks. Been following you ever since. Have a wonderful AMA. Wow thank you so much brother! :)
Love you TyDi. Thank you for your music. Thank YOU for listening to it :)
Been following you ever since I saw you at Paradiso this last summer! Your set was one of the most memorable. Keep up the good work, hope to see you again soon :)! Wow thank you, that festival was amaze!!!
Hey TyDi, big fan of your productions. Can you give any tips or advice on; (1) The very low end (<200Hz) (2) 1K onwards. Anything you do in particular to these two frequency ranges in terms of getting a tight mix. Hey mate! When you get into very low sub ranges you want to be careful. Roll off anything that doesn't need bass. Even guitars will give low end sub movement that you don't need. So just drop out parts that won't be / need to be heard in the mix. Focus on the elements like bass obviously.
How do you like the california lifestyle and what made you want to become a edm dj Cali is awesome! I just love dance music, so being a producer / DJ is perfect!!
Hi Tyson, no question just a hello from a big fan from melbourne. :) Cheers dude! Hello from NYC! :)
Hi from DC, love your music and I've been a fan for a while, I liked your recent music videos for nothing really matters & live this lie. Just wanted to say you're awesome mate, can't wait for the next album. Wow thank you so much! That means the world to me :)
Hi Tydi big fan from Adelaide, its sad to see you move countries! Just letting you know that there is an entire trance community here on reddit @ /trance who seem to not have known about this AMA, I've posted there directing them here but hope its not too late! Thanks so much man! Hello from NYC!!
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2014.02.18 19:00 Plasma_Ball1 Hero Discussion of this Day: Viper (18 February 2014)

Viper, the Netherdrake
I am no sorcerer's familiar. Rather, I'll take a sorcerer as my pet.
Viper specializes in pinning down single targets from a distance, while dealing moderate damage. His Poison Attack allows him to consistently slow someone down, and he can fire a heavily concentrated Viper Strike toxin to nearly stop someone in their tracks, and deal good damage over time. This allows him to be more aggressive as he can go in and keep targets from escaping. To aid with leading a charge, he's developed Corrosive Skin that offers resistances, returns minor poison and slows the attacker. While most of Viper's damage is dealt over time with poisons, he has a passive Nethertoxin which allows him to deal additional damage to weaker units.
Lore
The malevolent familiar of a sadistic wizard who captured and hoped to tame him, Viper was curiously glad to have been sprung from the sealed and unchanging subterranean Nether Reaches where his race had lived for millions of years, after tectonic slippage had sealed off the Netherdrakes in luminous caverns. Viper spent some time appearing to submit to the wizard's enchainments, hoping to learn what he could of the dark magics the mage practiced. But he soon realized that few spells were as deadly as the toxins that were his birthright. Exuding an acid that swiftly ate away the bars of his cage, the Netherdrake slipped free of his confines, spit poison in the old spellcaster's eyes, and soared out to let the world know that it had a new master.
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Roles: Carry, Durable

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Strength: 20 + 1.9
Agility: 21 + 2.5
Intelligence: 15 + 1.8
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Damage: 44-46
Armour: 1.94
Movement Speed: 285
Attack Range: 575
Missile Speed: 1200
Base Attack Time: 1.7
Sight Range: 1800 (Day) / 800 (Night)
Turn Rate: 0.4
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Spells
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Poison Attack
Intensifies Viper's venom, adding an effect to his normal attack that slows attack and movement speed while dealing damage over time.
Level Manacost Cooldown Casting Range Area Duration Effects
1 20 0 600 N/A 2 Puts a Unique Attack Modifer (Orb effect) onto Viper's normal attack which slows the target's attack and move speed by 10% and deals 10 damage per second
2 20 0 600 N/A 2 Puts a Unique Attack Modifer (Orb effect) onto Viper's normal attack which slows the target's attack and move speed by 20% and deals 16 damage per second
3 20 0 600 N/A 2 Puts a Unique Attack Modifer (Orb effect) onto Viper's normal attack which slows the target's attack and move speed by 30% and deals 22 damage per second
4 20 0 600 N/A 2 Puts a Unique Attack Modifer (Orb effect) onto Viper's normal attack which slows the target's attack and move speed by 40% and deals 28 damage per second
The Netherdrake's inborn toxic breath quickly drains the vitality of its afflicted.
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Nethertoxin
Passive
Nethertoxin causes Viper's normal attack to deal bonus damage to units based on how much health they are missing. The bonus damage doubles for each 20% of health missing from the target. Nethertoxin deals half damage to creeps and buildings.
Level Manacost Cooldown Casting Range Area Duration Effects
1 - - - - - Causes Viper's attacks to deal bonus damage based on how much health is missing from the target, 2.5 base bonus damage, 40 max
2 - - - - - Causes Viper's attacks to deal bonus damage based on how much health is missing from the target, 5 base bonus damage, 80 max
3 - - - - - Causes Viper's attacks to deal bonus damage based on how much health is missing from the target, 7.5 base bonus damage, 120 max
4 - - - - - Causes Viper's attacks to deal bonus damage based on how much health is missing from the target, 10 base bonus damage, 160 max
Poison from the Nether Reaches turns wounds into fatalities, and fatigue into death.
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Corrosive Skin
Passive
Viper exudes an infectious toxin that damages and slows any enemy that attacks it. The acid exudate also increases Viper's resistance to spells.
Level Manacost Cooldown Casting Range Area Duration Effects
1 - - - - 4 Any enemy who attacks Viper is slowed (attack and movespeed) by 10% and is dealt 10 damage per second. Also gives Viper an extra 10% magic resistance
2 - - - - 4 Any enemy who attacks Viper is slowed (attack and movespeed) by 15% and is dealt 15 damage per second. Also gives Viper an extra 15% magic resistance
3 - - - - 4 Any enemy who attacks Viper is slowed (attack and movespeed) by 20% and is dealt 20 damage per second. Also gives Viper an extra 20% magic resistance
4 - - - - 4 Any enemy who attacks Viper is slowed (attack and movespeed) by 25% and is dealt 25 damage per second. Also gives Viper an extra 25% magic resistance
It is not unusual for sword and shield alike to corrode in the very hands of those who attack the Netherdrake.
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Viper Strike
Ultimate
Viper slows the targeted enemy unit's movement and attack speed while also dealing poison damage over time. The slowing effect reduces over the duration of the poison.
Level Mana Cost Cooldown Casting Range Area Duration Effects
1 125 80 (12*) 500 (900*) N/A 5.1 Slows the enemy target by 40% and deals 60 damage per second
2 175 (125*) 50 (12*) 500 (900*) N/A 5.1 Slows the enemy target by 60% and deals 100 damage per second
3 250 (125*) 30 (12*) 500 (900*) N/A 5.1 Slows the enemy target by 80% and deals 145 damage per second
Once used to slay his sadistic summoner, the most powerful of Netherdrake infections spreads through the veins of those foolish enough to cross Viper.
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Recent Changes from 6.80
Recent Changes from 6.79
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Tips:
Viper Strike is useful to cast on a powerful melee hero to give yourself the ability to kite them.
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fiatlux discusses Orb Walking on Viper
A thread here discusses Viper's viability in competitive matches (thread by NDN_Shadow)
Koikon talks about Vanguard vs Mek and why Mek is better, fisherrr also does the same
There are two good PlayDota guides on Viper: Dodge Viper 2.0/Reptile Aircraft and Viperidae
The previous Viper discussion.
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If you want a specific hero to be discussed next, feel free to post or message me. Request list
No Valve Artwork Voice Responses In-game Icon Dota Cinema Video Overview Dota2Wiki Hero Page Pro VOD Catalogue
Posts are every two or four days.
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Important Night Stalker tip of last thread by Tainic:
"Please, check enemy team's abilities and items before ganking : If the enemy has a tp scroll, save your void to cancel it, if you gank a weaver, a bounty hunter or a prophet, save your silence. It might sound obvious but far too much people just mindlessly throw all their 3 abilities without taking into account the heroes they are facing, resulting in a 1/5/1 NS at first night.
Be surprising when ganking, they expect you to gank from their jungle ? Go in their lane and get them by behind, so they can't back, that's an example among others, a good NS is a NS that inspires fear and makes the enemy hugging his tower."
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2014.01.17 21:10 tabledresser [Table] IAmA: I am the founder of Improv Everywhere and the subject of the documentary We Cause Scenes AMA!

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Have there ever been any ideas for improv scenarios that you guys almost did but rejected because it might have been too dangerous or illegal? We never try to break the law. We've broken a ton of retail store policies, MTA regulations, park regulations, etc. So I'm happy to break the rules, but no one is trying to get arrested. A great example of the cops showing up but not being able to do anything was our Best Buy Uniform Prank. We had 100 people wear blue polo shirts and khaki pants in a Best Buy. They called 911, but the cops basically said, "It's not illegal to wear a blue polo shirt."
"It's not illegal to wear a blue polo shirt." Yet. Just wait until Best Buy's lobbyists dig their claws into a Congressman. They set us a cease and desist for selling blue polo shirts with a yellow Improv Everywhere logo. So I'm well aware of their legal team.
They also used one of our photos from the prank on their official website and training material (without asking permission, I may add). And without realizing it. We think.
What is the best reaction you have seen from a bystander? At the No Pants Subway Ride when someone looked around at the car and realized they were the only one wearing pants and then took their own pants off.
If you could redo one (non-annual) prank from scratch, which one would it be and why? The Moebius. Because it's probably the best idea we've ever had and the video is super shitty because it was 2003 and we didn't know what we were doing. I'll remake it at some point. Waiting for the right opportunity.
Oh man, I loved this one. Just the mission report is excellent reading. And the choice of music... brilliant. I'm glad you like it. Most people HATE that music. I thought it was funny. It's by Orbital and it's a sample of the Star Trek TNG episode that inspired the name of the prank. Back in the days where you could use copyrighted music on YouTube with no consequences.
What's your favourite public stunt you have done? It's so hard to pick a favorite, but my favorite one last year was Conduct Us, where we set up an orchestra in the middle of NYC and let random people conduct them. The documentary are also does a great job of showing some of our early highlights, like our Fake U2 prank.
As IE become more and more popular, are you afraid the surprise effect will disappear because people will tell themselves "Ahh nothing special, it must be IE again" ? This definitely happens at annual events like the No Pants Subway Ride. But we work hard to stay original and try new things. But yeah, we've created a style where people who are familiar with the YouTube channel can recognize it if they stumble upon it. Fortunately there are like 7.5 million people in NYC who have never seen our YouTube channel.
Speaking of number of people, you should do a stunt in a very small town so remote that they barely have internet. Zombie invasion, improvised marathon, lot of tourists walking backward, etc! All the town would speak about it while they try to understand what happened. Edit : Typo. I staged some projects in Russia in a very remote town. It was a great experience. See: Russian Furniture Store Invasion
Who creates the music for the musicals? How much work/rehearsal goes into those? Anthony King and Scott Brown, the creators of Gutenberg! The Musical!. Definitely check that show out as it's hilarious in the same way our musicals are. They are super talented. We usually have one long rehearsal and one dress rehearsal in the location.
Are there any missions/ideas you've always wanted to do but logistically wouldn't be able to pull off? I'd love to do something like our Look Up More mission but with multiple buildings. Like every building surrounding a park.
Not to be too trivial but... Do you make a living out of this? It's OK, that's the first question people always ask whenever I give talks. Yes, it's my job. I make revenue off of YouTube's partner program, get paid to do speaking engagements, get hired to stage things at festivals, get hired to stage projects at private events, consult a little bit. I don't really make money off of Improv Everywhere directly (apart from the YouTube ads), but it's become a career via the other things I get hired to do because of Improv Everywhere.
How much does youtube pay? Not that much, but enough that I can at least break even on the costs of producing the projects. More if something goes viral.
Do you guys do much stage improv? I know you do talks, but do you ever do classic long-form or short-form type stuff? Yes, I perform every Saturday night at the Upright Citizens Brigade Theatre with my team The Curfew. I also host the show CageMatch every Thursday. Both shows are long form improv. I haven't done short form in about 14 years. I don't consider Improv Everywhere to be improv, by the way, despite our dumb name.
Are there any missions you have been dying to try? I want to get 500 guys dressed as Snowtroopers to walk around Central Park the day after a blizzard. The problem is I don't have access to that many costumes (don't think the 501st Legion has that many Snowtroopers), and I also don't know in advance when a blizzard is coming.
Maybe just a Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, and a tauntaun? Like, recreate one of the other scenes from Hoth in the meantime? Yeah, that would be good. Hmmm... where to get a tauntaun...
It seems like there are 350 such costumes in the world. It might be hard to pull this off :) Link to www.501st.com. I actually reached out to the local NY-area 501st groups when I staged Star Wars Subway Car and I didn't get anywhere. One guy responded but then cancelled. I ended up working with College Humor as they had some costumes.
In the early days, a lot of Improve Everywhere's missions were small, often subtle things involving just a handful of people. Some of my favorites were The Moebius and Suicide Jumper. These days, it seems like most missions are large-scale stunts that require a mob of people to pull off. Do you guys have any plans to go back to the more discreet missions? Actually we still do tons of small scale projects. Our big ones like the No Pants Subway Ride get more attention, but we did a ton of small scale things last year. Most of our Movies In Real Life series involved just a handful of actors. The big mob stuff is fun, but I have a better time with the smaller ones.
Have any stunts ever gone horribly wrong, and if so, what's your favorite one? The Camera Flash Experiment was probably our biggest failure. I had 800 people on the Brooklyn Bridge in the pouring rain and the effect we were going for wasn't as cool as I hoped it would be. It worked... but it was a shitty night in the rain for something that didn't quite pay off.
Where did you find that girl at 1:54?? Link to www.youtube.com. Her name is LJ and she started coming to the No Pants Subway Ride in 2006. That was the year the cops stopped the ride and handcuffed people in their underwear. She wound up in an Associated Press photo that went around the world. She later reached out to me and started coming every year. She's one of the organizers now!
What is a typical day like for you? My worst days are sitting on the Internet for 10 hours answering emails and dealing with logistical stuff. My best days are traveling to somewhere like New Zealand to give a talk on Improv Everywhere (I'm going in 2 weeks!)
Do you reinvest the money you make from YouTube ads back into Improv Everywhere? Yes, the money we make on YouTube ads pays for the productions. So that money is paying for the production company I use (camera crew, editors, producers) and things like props and costumes.
Have you ever been worried with the size some events have gotten? For example your mp3 experiments. Thanks for all the inspiration and fun memories! Old school! Thanks for staying with us. Yeah, I always think about how huge the Mp3 Experiment gets. This year I staged it TWICE to try to cut down the crowds but it didn't work. Next year we need a huge location. Or we need to do it even more times. It was much easier when 200 people would show up. :) But it's also really fucking cool that 7,000 New Yorkers want to be a part of our ridiculous event.
Central Park? Central Park would probably not give me a permit to host an event that big. Normally I don't get permits for anything I do, but when you're bringing thousands... it's the nice thing to do. :)
The moments leading up to some event, are you ever excited or nervous? I imagine after so many years you get a little immune, but I could imagine new scenes lead to a certain raise in heart beat? Also, to what extend do you participate in some scene/stunt yourself? Do you often just pretend to be among the audience or do you do certain roles besides organizing? Love your work by the way! If it's something we've never staged, I get excited and a little nervous. I've done this for so long that I generally know what to expect, but if it's something that's unauthorized I worry about how long we're going to get away with it for. Our prank at Staples lasted for like 5 minutes before we got asked to leave! So it's stressful-- did it last long enough for us to make a video out of it? Or will we have nothing to show for our work? In the end that one was pretty funny due to how short it was.
I usually have some sort of role in the pranks, though yeah, often a behind-the-scenes role. Sometimes I hold a camera. Sometimes I'm there to talk to the actor in between the different parts. I had tons of fun working the 11-year-old actor in our Harry Potter video a couple of months ago, for example.
How do you get people for the scenes, and how would I join in? The smaller projects are cast with actors from the Upright Citizens Brigade Theatre (where I perform in NYC) and other longtime members of Improv Everywhere. The big ones are open-to-the-public and announced on our email list. We sometimes cast the smaller ones through that list too.
What made you decide to go from performing on stage to starting Improv Everywhere? How did Improv Everywhere get started? The basic reason was that I didn't have a stage! I did tons of theatre in college but when I moved to NYC no one knew who I was. So while I was figuring out the theatre and comedy scene in NYC I decided to start staging things in public. Making the city a stage. We Cause Scenes does a great job of showing the early stuff when I was 22. There's footage from those old projects in the film. The first thing I ever did was fool people into thinking I was Ben Folds
Have you ever had the cops get involved in any of your stunts? Yeah a few times. Most notably at Best Buy, our U2 rooftop prank and at the 5th Annual No Pants Subway Ride
As I was heading back upstairs, I apologized to the head cop, “I’m really sorry we wasted your time today.” He replied, “You were trying to do a funny thing. I understand, but we had to do something.” Yeah, they were ultimately cool once they figured out what was going on.
How did this all start? Was it spontaneous? Answered this below. It was a spontaneous prank where I pretended to be Ben Folds in a bar with the help of a college friend accomplice.
Do you keep any of the props and costumes after you're done filming? I save some stuff. Some stuff I give to the actors. I let the Ghostbusters actors keep their costumes from the library prank. The boulder from the Indiana Jones prank had to be destroyed sadly. It was too big to keep.
Hey - I've been a fan since Moebius Loop way back when. My group and I have tried to create that, and it's a blast! My question: What tools are best to mobilize and motivate participants for your missions? I've tried a couple here where I live, and people sign up, then fail to show up on the appointed day. I think they get cold feet and can't follow through. When you plan to do something with 50 people and you end up with 10 people it's discouraging. How do you keep them in the game till it's game time? Thanks and keep up the GREAT work! My advice would be to start small. Find projects (like the Moebius) that only need 10 people. Once you do a bunch of those, you'll have a core team that feels invested and wants to keep coming out, and you'll grow.
Has a stunt ever gone wrong and ended up too sad or weird to actually post? I've posted everything we've ever done except ONE project. I won't reveal what it is because I will eventually do it again. It never got posted because our camera guys got caught and the footage ended up being too shitty. Nothing has been to sad or weird though.
How in touch are you with the "Improv Everywhere" groups in other cities such as Boston, Portland, or Philly, or are they separate totally entities from what you personally work on? If they are separate, what are your thoughts on them? They are totally separate. I communicate with the leaders of the regional No Pants Subway Ride each year and give them a heads up on the date, etc. I've met a few of the regional organizers. James Cobalt from Boston has been to a few of our NYC events. Jeff Moriarty in Phoenix has always been really friendly with me over email. If we tour to a city where there is a good local group, I try to reach out and meet up.
How were you like in high school? I was not the class clown, but I was the guy producing the class clown's antics from behind-the-scenes and under the cover of being an A student.
I hope to be a part of a flash mob one day thanks to y'all. When can we expect another musical? And if you're ever in Houston count me in in whatever is going on! I really want to do more musicals. It's been 2 years since we've done one. One of my goals for 2014 is to do at least one new one.
What's the meaning of life? Edit: I know Charlie (and he's freakin' awesome) and I really want to hear his perspective on life. I'm a non-believer, so I have no idea. My philosophy is to live each day to the fullest... though I usually wind up living each day sitting on the Internet.
What would either of you do with an unlimited budget? ...besides hiring me all of the time, of course. I would hire an AD on all of my projects.
Hey, love following Improv Everywhere and watching the videos/reading the block posts of your missions! Thanks for reading the mission reports! Sometimes I feel like no one has the attention span to read them anymore.
What missions take the most planning and to pull off, and do you think those missions turn out better or worse than those with a bit less planning? It's really fulfilling to work on something for a long period of time and have it pay off. I spent like a month working on Grand Central Lights and watching the end result was really satisfying. That said, there have been simple ideas we've put together in a matter of days that got more views.
Also, I'm in the Seattle area and have had an idea rattling around in my head for a fun scene, but I don't have the connections to pull it off (would require some choreography and a few people who actually know how to dance, rather than my two left feet). Do you know any groups in the pacific northwest that do stuff along the same lines as you do in New York? There is a group called Emerald City Improv in Seattle that was inspired by Improv Everywhere. Look them up.
I'm someone whose done Improv on and off for the past 10 years. Performed on a house team, trained in the Harold, taken several classes. I'm someone who has performed improv for the past 17 years, continuously. I trained in the Harold at UCB and have been on a house team at UCB for 12 years. I also taught classes at UCB for many years.
Would you really call what you do Improv? No, I do not call what we do improv. It's just a shitty name for the group I came up with when I was 22.
As someone who has traveled for 30 years, would you say you have been everywhere? Alan, I've been LITERALLY EVERYWHERE.
Love the videos keep them coming! Any ideas for a new series? Loved the movies in real life and having weekly videos to look forward to! Thanks! We're hoping to do a series this year of musicals, but I'm not sure if it will happen or not. It was fun doing a series for the first time. You can see all the Movies In Real Life vids here if people don't know what we're talking about.
Random musicals in public places?? Sounds fun! Yall have to do a song from Frozen <3 that movie. Thanks! We do original songs though, to avoid copyright issues.
What do you think would be an easy and effective scene to organize around a college campus? Well our Frozen Grand Central project was replicated on college quads all over the world when that craze was going on in 2008. So that's definitely an easy one. Everyone can freeze in place for 5 minutes and it's always really cool to see. We tour our Mp3 Experiment project to college campuses too. We just did one at University of Florida.
Hold Me Kiss Me Kill Me Thrill Me? Yes Zach, this indeed a line you have in the U2 rooftop prank video
How do you pick what scenes to cause? Is there a core group that ferments ideas? I ultimately decide on what we do next, but I always brainstorm with our production team and other longtime members of the group. The first person I bounce ideas off is my wife. She's been at almost every project since we started dating in 2006. I also get tons of ideas emailed to me, and every now and then I get a great one. Like the time someone told me to get a mob of dudes to shop shirtless at Abercrombie.
Can you like, redo this one? The quality wasnt that good because it was in the beginning, and it would be so fun to have that one again, with more people joining maybe. I personally think that was one of your best ones. Maybe... it would be pretty funny to try to get people to do it at EVERY Abercrombie in the world on the same day.
How was your experience doing your TED talk? It was great. It was actually at a TEDx conference in Indiana. I almost didn't say yes to their offer because it was far away and there are a million TEDx's so why wouldn't I just do one near me? But the organizer Christian Long was really persistent and I finally said yes. I'm so happy I did. They filmed it super well and the crowd was AMAZING. They were just so excited to be there. Then the video got promoted to TED.com and became an official TED talk, which was huge for me. I then got invited to TED to stage a prank - The Spinning Beach Ball of Death
Did NYC fine you for painting the sidewalks in the tourist lane prank? Nope! It was chalk, so it went away after a few rains. Bloomberg said "it was cute."
Thank you for doing this, I would like to ask, how do you come up with the different ideas for your scenes? The best ideas are the ones that are site specific. Like, I was riding an elevator in the subway system when I came up with High Five Escalator
I see this all over reddit now. It's almost a meme. Yeah, that drives me crazy. I made a .gif of that project and it gets posted to imgur and linked on the front page of Reddit about once a year with no attribution. I mean, cool that it's a meme, but annoying to have the credit stripped.
What advice would you have for a college student in Boston looking to break into the improv scene? I'm in my school's troupe and also did (read, loved) No Pants Subway Ride Boston! I know there are some good improv theatres in Boston. ImprovBoston I've been to. My main advice to anyone looking to get serious about comedy is to move to NYC and train at the Upright Citizens Brigade Theatre. Thanks for being a part of the Boston No Pants Subway Ride!
What about Second City? I don't personally have much experience with Second City, and they do not have a theatre in NYC. I know their focus is more on sketch than it is on improv as an artform unto itself.
What's your favorite musical that IE has performed? Tough call, but I gotta go with the original, Food Court Musical - not as polished as the others in terms of performance, but it was the most exciting to watch.
I know for these scenes inspiration can come from anywhere, so what is the weirdest moment, or thing that you got a flash of inspiration from? Locations usually inspire ideas for me. Once I was getting lunch in my old neighborhood and saw a 4 foot tall wall, and I immediately new I needed to put a Suicide Jumper on it. video
Have you seen the other Food Court Musical? Yeah I think I've seen that link before, but I haven't watched all 55 minutes!
Man, I love that one. The plastic firefighter hat was a great touch. I would have gotten a real costume if I could have afforded it at the time. I later became friends with a real firefighter, who made a cameo in our Christmas Story video.
What have you seen happen during one of your stunts that you're sad wasn't caught on camera? Oh man like a million things. I'm always seeing great reactions and wishing there was a camera person there. But we do things that are so spread out you can't catch everything. Also, in the early days I didn't film everything. We didn't film our Circle Line Tours and I've always regretted it.
Loved "We Cause Scenes" - very informative and entertaining to hear the background stories and learn about the missions meant for the TV Pilot that never was. If you were given an unlimited budget where money no issue, is there a grandiose mission you dream of pulling off? Ever thought of working with more celebrities - say for music videos? I get approached to work on music videos from time to time, but usually not by the artist. It's from a marketing person from the record label and the artist isn't available. I might do one one day but a good opportunity hasn't come up. I'm a big Flaming Lips fan and my dream is to collaborate with them on something. I've gone as far as to email their manager, but I've never gotten a response. Their public stunts were really influential to me.
Oh geez, the potential of fun scenes to cause with ANY of The Flaming Lips' props - would be wild! Exactly.
Which stunts are the hardest to pull off? The ones that need an EXACT number of actors, like Grand Central Lights. Very hard to recruit the right number. If you have too many, then some people are upset they can't do it. If you don't have enough, you have an empty window and it looks shitty.
Have you ever been arrested? (in relation to improv everywhere) I was in handcuffs after the Fake U2 Concert but the charges were dropped. That's the only time I've been cuffed.
Hi, thanks for both of you for taking the time to do this. I've loved seeing our concepts spread around the world. It is especially cool to see the No Pants Subway Ride happening in places like India and China. One guy even did it in Cairo this year. It's been fun to see some of those regional groups do cool original stuff as well.
I've enjoyed watching the videos of your missions and have only ever been able to take part in the ones you've done here in the UK. Thanks for doing the UK tour stuff. I can't believe we haven't done an Mp3 Experiment in London yet. Long overdue.
The two questions I have are: what do you think of the groups who have started because they were inspired by you (such as the ones from the now-lapsed Improv Everywhere: Global site on ning), and have there been any ideas you've had for missions that you've started planning but never made it to the execution form one reason or another? Yeah there are always like 10 projects on my "need to do" list. Sometimes we get close to doing one but end up deciding it's not quite right. They got back to the list and hopefully I eventually figure out how to pull it off.
Any plans to do anything nice and big in the UK? Possibly Nottingham? I'd love to be able to come join you guys in something, but barely anything seems to be in the UK :c. We've toured to the UK a few times. Manchester, Newcastle, and maybe Blackburn? I can't believe we haven't been to London. Hopefully we will fix this soon.
Oh, the No Trousers Tube Ride people would be THRILLED if you guys ever showed up here. :D. Hey Rammi! Well, unfortunately I have to be in NYC on that day.
Haha, oh yeah, since this is an AMA... Why my photo every year, man? :P Haha. Out of laziness. I just cut and paste the prior year's page and don't bother to change it. I like the photo though because it's clearly London. Many No Pants Subway Ride photos from other cities just look a generic subway, but everyone knows the Underground logo. Next year I might change it to the Hong Kong photo from this year, which I also love.
What sort of things did NBC do, or ask you to do, that were not in the spirit of the IE voice when making the pilot? How was it different with a big budget compared to working now? NBC was actually really cool when it came to the prank ideas. They let me do pretty much exactly what I wanted. The only change was that they cut one idea, which was doing a version of our Romantic Comedy Cab. They thought it was too much of a "think piece." But the other projects were exactly as I wanted them to be. The stuff I didn't like was the opening credits and the hosting bits. It wasn't in my voice. So everything that went around the pranks felt a little off, but I they gave me freedom with the pranks themselves.
I don't have a question, but I'm using a question mark? I see what you did there?
What is the worst reaction (ie, most negative) you've gotten from bystanders or authorities? The worst has been someone dialing 911, as in the Best Buy prank. Other than that, sometimes people just don't care for what's happening and speak up about it. The documentary shows some negative reactions we got from our Amazing Hypnotist prank and discusses how we learned from it.
I'm a longtime mp3 experiment participant (and even met you once at the Webutante Ball!) and I've noticed that as the number of participants grows so much, the mp3 experiment loses some of what makes it fun - the element of surprise of the non-participants, not knowing who else is participating, and starting out isolated but eventually coming together in a big group (the Times Square/Bryant Park experiment was a highlight for me). Last year you tried splitting it into 2 time slots, but even still it was crazy crowded. Do you have trouble finding new spots? Do you have ideas of how to get it back to the smaller, more spread-out original adventure? Yeah I think this year we need a bigger location, and we might need to do it over 2 days. We'll see. It was definitely too crowded this year. Though I gotta say the mall on the 3rd floor in the 3 PM edition was perfect. Thanks for participating! And cool we met at that party!
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Who wrote Flute Salad? What was the inspiration for this magnificent song? That would be me!
I like all kinds of quirky music and wanted to do some humorous songs in RS, so I came up with this. It started with me messing about with some flute passages until something came together that I liked, and the song grew from there.
I'll let you in to a little secret - the name of the song came from another song by a very unusual band called Gong :)
Gong... Ian is showing his age... which is older than me :) Yeah but I only look about 18 :P.
Which one are you in the picture? He's the oldest looking one ;)
I'm a bit surprised you haven't written your own custom midi tracker. And, as audio professionals, why is midi about the only device that hasn't developed from it's inception, what 20 years ago? I've written tracker music before, but not for RS. Why is MIDI still about? I guess it kinda works...! The MIDI protocol (Music Instrument Digital Interface) is actually still used in Recording Studios all around the world, even today!
Sorry Jagex, I meant why hasn't the MIDI protocol developed into something fantastic. It's been around 20 years and is still basically the same clunky, frustrating thing. It's happening, but it takes time, especially with something so well-established.
I used to use Midi in a home studio, but as part of a creative process, it sucked technically. You say advances are happening, what are they? Have you ever used any VST instruments? There are so many out there now...
1 what was it like working with james hannigan will you work with him again in the future? 2 what is your favourite rs track? 3 what you guys find more enjoyable writing new music or redoing old tracks or voice acting ? 4 do you ever think there will be a time were all npcs will be voice acted ? 5 how does working at jagex differ from past companys you have worked with? 6 many users choose do mute all in game sound is that upsetting to see that many people wont expereince something you worked hard on and what would you say to users to change there minds ? 7 when looking to voice well loved characters are you more careful to a sure you find the right actor then you would with say a new charcter? 8 how do you choose which areas to redo is it a matter of choice or do have to wait to the area is geting graphically update? 9 many users request downloads for tracks will this be possiable with the realse of rs 3? 10 what is your favourite aspect of runescape that you havent worked on eg lore, skills etc? I've known James Hannigan a long time and worked with him previously on the Harry Potter games. He is a brilliant composer who instinctively knows what I'm looking for.
My favourite RS track is Harmony.
Can you separate your questions a bit haha or I might spend the whole hour answering this one :)
One question here was how does working at jagex differ from past companies. I'd like to answer that. Jagex gives me the opportunity to use all my creative abilities, they encourage people to use the talent they were employed for. I always believe you should allow people to express themselves and then you get the best out of someone. I have more fun here than anywhere else and I believe if you have fun in what you do then others will appreciate that and have fun listening.
As a programmer, I'm guessing pizza? Or maybe chinese? Haha yes pizza... the food of games developers! We have sandwiches too...
Yes pizza, and the sandwich lady came back for a special appearance too :)
Will the new music be able to be downloaded in mp3 format from the downloads section the website when it's launched? Thanks :) I'm intending putting our music on Soundcloud, it gives me the ability to get downloads ready quickly :)
Expect some teasers over the coming weeks!!
Keep tabs on our soundcloud, we'll be updating this quite regularly in the future. Link to soundcloud.com
I play RuneScape on-and-off ever since I got older, but it's still nostalgic and I still enjoy it from time to time. The first encounter I had with RS music was the very midi and silly theme that always played when I first get to the old login page, which led me to turn down the music for the following 5 years... Will you vary up the menu music to avoid hearing the same tiring opening blast? Or at least make it slower, quieter, adjustable, etc? I would suggest something like ScapeMelancholy as a starter over ScapeBold. Similarly, will areas have a rotation of music so people don't get tired of it when going back and forth between places? Will you "hold back" on all the music you write for areas? One thing I notice is that the music always changes quickly from place to place and it can get annoying when passing through too many areas. Could you implement a system for players to choose between quieter music versus louder melodic music as to suit their current mood? Will you try implementing music related to skilling because that's the "mindset" of the player? Do you wish to implement emotional music or silly music? Because of the nature of RuneScape as a somewhat casual game with less immersion, do you think ambient or exciting orchestral music would be out of place? Along that same vein, since a lot of the newer music is more orchestral, where do you think you would implement that? Would it be during scripted quests such that the music relates to it more or will it be area-related? Also along that vein, would orchestral music be longer in duration for quests than the ones seen on the soundcloud since players have the option to take as long as they want on a quest? Will area-related music be more ambient in nature, i.e., less melodic in nature and longer in terms of harmonic movements? Thoughts on using a system like FTL's OST where you use versions of the same music for different moods? Where was the decision to include human voices coming from, for both voice-acting as well as music? What sort of inspiration do you work with? Do you listen to general music from region/areas similar to that of RS? Do you listen to other videogame music with a similar vibe (maybe like Skyrim)? Do you specifically create music for areas or do you assign areas to music? Yes I want to vary the menu music. We have several options that would work and maybe we choose randomly between them all. Yes we want to provide variety of music in areas so players aren't stuck on the same piece of music. Yes we will try and avoid tracks cutting off quickly when you are passing through areas. Skilling music - interesting idea. I would like the soundtrack to recognise when you are in one area or doing the same thing and the system to be sympathetic to that and adjust accordingly. Gentle ambient themes for skilling sounds good to me. We want to implement emotional music and silly music! Runescape is a real smorgasbord (I've been dying to use that word!) of moods and styles. We don't want to lose that. If we can get players to laugh along with us or cry along with us then we're doing our job properly. It's certainly not all serious now and we enjoy writing fun music. Mod Ian's Cheese Wheel rolling music springs to mind ;) The larger orchestral pieces need their place or their moment. Most won't sit as area music, we use them for front ends and epic moments. The lighter folk style is more relevant to wandering about. Yes quest music is generally longer or have more tracks to fill the quests accordingly. Check out the Ozan quests, we wrote loads for those. Some areas will be more ambient yes. As far as melodies are concerned, we'd like to reuse melodies across multiple songs to add to the continuity. The orchestra is the Slovak National Symphony Orchestra in Bratislava. I've worked with them before, as I have orchestras in London. We took our own team there including recording engineer and conductor. I guess voice acting and singing was mainly my decision. Voices add so much to the narrative and I like singing in games too. I'd love to hear more songs of lore sung in pubs and by rest musicians. Music can be written all ways, there is no formula and my team all have their own way of writing which can vary from piece to piece. We're all big gamers and love game soundtracks. We are creating music for areas. We all play instruments. I am a classically trained pianist but I play a lot of guitar, ukulele and mandolin. I've worked on games for 20 or so years. I've worked on all types of games on all platforms. I love working on Runescape though :)
Thank you so much for taking the time! I can't wait to see what you'll come up with. Pleasure! Great questions :)
Will every single song in the game be updated which is currently there? If so will you be deleting any of tracks or just reworking every one again? We are not intending deleting any songs currently. We will eventually update all music but for launch we are looking at around 6 hours of music which includes the orchestra, folk music, and a lot of new contemporary content for 6th age.
I think it is fair to say that we won't be able to update every song in the game for release, but our ultimate aim is to update all of them eventually.
About how many tracks do you expect to have redone when RS3 launches? Safe to assume that the new ScapeBold will be the title screen track? At least 100 tracks. We have lots of new 6th age music as well. ScapeBold will indeed feature as the title. We may also put other tracks at the front as well so it varies each time. What do you think of that idea?
What's the funnest part of your job? Funnest part of my job is definitely getting to play my mandolin and ukulele! Best part is to record orchestras. It can be such an overwhelming experience that makes everything worthwhile :)
Do you guys actually play Runescape? Playing though the content during Development can be funny - some of it is rather amusing! :) Sometimes bugs and glitches can look quite amusing too! LOL.
Would you be interested in coming on my podcast and nerding out? I do play RuneScape, have done for over 7 years! :)
Thank you again and look forward to your responses! Hey, and you're welcome! The Funnest part of my job is probably working with the voice actors. We get some really talented people to work with and they're often very funny. Yeah we play Runescape, every day! And can you please define 'nerding out'? I'm sure we could organise something, provided it's nothing weird.
It seems likely there's going to be a lot of quests which will need the same voice actors coming up (I imagine that's why The World Wakes wasn't voiced). So how do you go about finding people to do voices? How do you intend on keeping them around? and lastly, how hard is it to cast for roles like Saradomin? Yeah, that is a bit of a headache. If an actor is doing a show or goes away on holiday then we can end up a bit stuck, or having to recast. For example, Ozan was originally a very small part in the Troll Invasion, but we ended up having to recast for his full quests Diamond in the Rough and Stolen Hearts. We also redid his Troll Invasion lines. Casting is hard. We put together our concept art, a character bio and any age/origins/accent details together, then send them off to our voice studio (OMUK). They then send us a bunch of samples that match the biographies, without actor names (so our choice is unbiased), and we make our selection or ask for recasting. We often have to cast for various characters as well, so tend to go for versatile actors who can do different voices and accents.
Did you guys major in music in college? How many of you guys can play an instrument? I have a degree in Physics and a masters in Applied Optics!! Apart from that, we are all musicians who play various instruments who have generally dedicated our lives to music.
I have a BSc(Hons) in Music Technology. I play piano and violin :)
My French teacher told me I was good at piano.
I write a lot of songs, but its debateable whether i actually "play" my instrument (keyboards) :D.
YOU HAVE A DEGREE IN PHYSICS?!?!?! WHAT THE HECK?! You are a genius! What are you doing in Jagex Mod Lord. :o :o You should be Geneva somewhere working on bosons/mesons/neutrinos and all sorts lol! (You can clearly tell by the vocab that I'm using I'm revising for my Physics A-Levels as I'm typing this) Basically what I'm asking is, why Jagex? Why did you choose Jagex over any other job? My brother does all that clever physics type stuff for a living. Whereas I get to play with guitars, synths, sounds, great musicians and play games. I win I reckon :D.
Do you guys ever fell like your work goes to waste when people play with sounds turned off? Everyone wants something different from the game, so I don't mind if people don't listen to our work, we're happy to accommodate folks who are after the 'fuller' experience, but if that's not what you're after then that's cool too!
Good question. It's not a waste no. My remit is to make as many players turn on their sound as possible. For quests in particular there is a massive opportunity with audio to add depth and immersion to the stories. Audio will continue to get better and better and we will continue to offer players more reasons to turn sounds and music on.
Well, in some places the sound effects might give a competitive advantage...! :D.
I can understand how people might want to listen to their own music after a while when skilling for long periods (there is still a finite amount of music in the game after all), but it's especially worth turning music on for quests! ;)
The thing about RS is that you play the game how you want to. It's such a massive game that if only a small amount of players listened to the sounds it would still be a ton of people! We've been working hard to improve the audio and encourage players to turn their sound on :)
Is there anything in the pipeline for available music? This is bookmarked for chilling out time; I feel someone should get money for their work :D. (I hope some of you guys made these gems - I'm a little embarrassed otherwise...) EDIT: I linked wrong. Yeah we certainly did. And you're right about getting paid. That would be nice.
Army of Darkness. That's another of my songs - the idea was to get a "dark" mood to help with the atmosphere of the wilderness. Nearly all our songs have a reason to be written as RS has so many areas and storylines.
Where did the inspiration come from? Who wrote it? Will it be updated for RS3? The wilderness along with many other areas will have reworked music - eventually all the older format songs will get updated, but we don't intend to throw out everything, if a song fits what is was written for it will probably stay.
Also, when tasked to create music are you told of the area and do you do research into the players that venture that area? For example with Army of Darkness it was in a hotspot area of the Wilderness where many players fought against eachother. At the moment I can't remember where the title came from though...
Can you guys upload the tracks to Soundcloud? Yes, lots more music will be uploaded to Soundcloud. We have a pro account and intend uploading lots of albums!
I don't know if we'll upload everything we write, but keep an eye on the soundcloud page and the RS website / forums for more information.
Another question - Who came up with the idea to put "Runescape" in morse code into the song Norse Code? What was the inspiration for this? That was me! :) I wanted to see if anyone would notice... ! :)
The Fremenik characters also reminded me of Norsemen/Vikings :)
How did you guys came in touch with jagex? What did you do before jagex and how did you contact jagex or did jagex contacted you? I've been around a long time haha. Previously working for EA, Realtime Worlds, Rage Software etc.
I have to admit though, I've never been happier here, I love my job and the people here :)
I applied to a job advert, and never looked back! :)
I applied to an advert I saw on-line, before this I released an album, made music for a bunch of commercials and worked on indie games such as Revenge of the Titans and Fotonica.
Shucks. Some of the people here... ;)
Will my character ever get a voice? I'm sorry to say; probably not.
We tried it out with the first voiced tutorial, but the reception was very mixed and a lot of players complained that the voice didn't meet their expectations. It's a shame, and perhaps if the game had voice all along then we'd have gotten used to them, but for your very personal character - with whom you've identified and bonded over a long time - to start talking and to sound 'wrong', would likely upset a lot of people.
We could record a selection and allow the player to choose their voice, but with the sheer amount of dialogue the game generates, and the pace of development, it would be prohibitively expensive and time consuming.
Do you guys know Coppercab?> I know of a gold taxi, but not a copper cab ;)
What are the odds of one getting the opportunity to join the Audio team from a different country? Like the US for example. :P Do you guys have anybody on the Audio team that works from a distance? Or is everybody required to be on the property? Jagex staff all work here in the office as we need to speak with each other and discuss things, as well as be available when we are needed. its possible one day we might have someone that works from outside the office though.
The one on the right clearly lifts. Will there be much variety, even if only eventually? Constant orchestral can be very tiring. There's going to be a lot of variety it won't all be orchestral, we're working with a variety of individual musicians also, our reworks are a mix between orchestral and folk and a lot of the new 6th age content uses a lot of contemporary ideas and varied instrumentation including eastern percussion and electric guitars.
And is very handsome.
Hey. Kudos, you're doing an awesome job. -What's your take on the fact that people prefer to mute the runescape sounds and listen to music, etc? -Is it possible for you to forward the request of revamping Trouble Brewing and other dead content? I'ts fine - some people love it, some hate it - i like music the other guys in the audio team laugh at, we can't all be the same :)
Runescape can be played however you want to - so long as we have 1 music fan its worthwhile for us to keep on making tunes!
If people want to listen to their own music then sure, let them! Who are we to tell them not to? It'll then be a lovely surprise when they turn it back on and hear all the beautiful new content!
Great! Can't wait to see the many hours of work everybody is putting into this all come together. :) I hope i hear at least one good 8 bit chiptune version ;)
I'm looking forward to hearing more awesome sounds :) You're welcome! One of the best things about RS is we can keep doing updates, so if we want to change something we have the opportunity.
Will all of the MIDI tracks be replaced? And if so, will they all be replaced by the time RS3 launches? I wouldn't want to see a schizophrenic music system where some tracks are high-quality orchestrated music and other tracks are low-quality synthesized MIDI... Not every midi track will be replaced there's an absolutely huge amount of them! We will eventually get to them but we're aiming for 6 hours of new & reworked music for launch, which is still quite a lot heheh Some of the tracks that are not replaced yet (mostly quest music) will be rendered out MIDI tracks that will be streamed from the server. We can then replace the audio files as and when we get the opportunity.
Just 1 question. Are the new features exclusive to the HTML5 game only or will it be available for the Java game as well? My computer apparently can't handle the HTML5 Beta so it'd be disappointing if Java players like me are denied the (amazing) new audio. Our new audio features will be updated to the Java client also :)
What exactly do you mean when you talk about '6th age music'? Is this merely new music being written for RS3, or will it be playing during 6th age related content? New content :)
During the campaign of audio-making and the slaying of the dev-blocks, what enchanted foods kept spirits high and scurvy gone? Or: "What ya'll eat?" Actually i quite like cooking, my favourite it probably Thai, along with good old British roast dinners :)
Here's a question I'm sure many are wondering. Mac or PC? ;) I use both. But I have to admit I do love my Macbook Pro, iPad, iPhone, and iPod touch haha.
Used to be Mac, now it's PC. I may end up abandoning technology completely though if this browser seizes up on me again!
Sinclair zx80.
My favourite track of years past is Temple Desecrated can we expect tracks to all be recognisable and pretty much kept the same such as the rework of "The Power of Tears" that came along with the Tears of Guthix rework? The voice acting for non-human sounding voices has been top notch however I have always felt that the human sounding voice acting (I say human sounding because gnomes and snow imps are pretty much the same) sounded as if they were being acted which surely is beside the point of acting. Will we see an improvement on this front? Some tracks will be very faithful to the original, others may present the music in re-imagined way.
Would it be possible for you guys to release an album of all the old RuneScape tracks before they are redone? Although I am very excited for the new tracks, the old ones really strike a vein in my nostalgia and I would love to have them to listen to. Thanks :) We have all the old music saved, don't worry about that. I just to find a good place to ensure that it is kept available for everyone to indulge in some nostalgia! :)
I remember making specific trips to places JUST to listen to the soundtrack. Sometimes this involved danger, like going out to listen to 'undercurrent' lol. . . I'm so glad you guys are doing this AMA. So much nostalgia. Maybe enough for me to come back to runescape just for a very short time. . . :p Totally going to enter this remix contest. How could I not?? Come back! There's sooo much new fab music to listen to! :)
Look forward to hearing your music...
If you want nostalgia there is always oldschool runescape :)
While doing the reworks it's important to keep the "spirit" of the runescape songs alive, in some ways the music we are doing now is what i originally wanted for RS but we didn't have the technology available to us that we do now.
About how much people on average work on a soundtrack and do you all get an admin status ingame or do you all just make music and stay out of the game? At the moment there's 3 of us writing music for RS3, not including outside composers & musicians.
We all work on different aspects at once - someone writing music, someone making sound effects etc. Yes we all get admin status but we don't have the time during the working day to play. although of course we have to do a lot of testing when we add audio into the game.
We play the game. Music is an integral part of the experience and doesn't really sit separately. It's important to understand the game and how music interacts with that experience.
We can all work on different aspects of a particular piece of content. I try to assign my team to the areas in which they specialize if possible.
I recently started composing some music as a hobby. What programs and equipment do you use? We use all sorts of programs. Each composer has his particular favourite programs but overall we use Pro tools, Cubase, Audition, etc.
Do you guys play runescape outside of work? I have 99 firemaking, does that count?
Yes I know that was the easy one to get...
Any recommendations for midi editors/creators (especially free ones or ones that have trials)? Try Reaper! You get to try the full version for free and then it's pretty cheap if you decide to make it your main DAW
What's the best song you guys have written for runescape in your opinion? This could range from most fun to compose to simply favourite to listen to. And thanks, I've always loved the soundtrack for runescape, a lot of my childhood went into that game. I think my best work so far in the game has been the Song from the Depths music, I like how it carries its own mood and feeling throughout the quest. I'm also happy with the music in the Ozan quests.
For me its probably scape main - this is probably the most memorable song i've written, and love it hate it, it tends to get stuck in your head :)
I've not written that many, the majority was Mod Ian and Mod Bond. I enjoyed writing 'Wending Through The Willows' and 'Valerios Song'. I like bringing vocals into the soundtrack and will be doing more...
I don't know about the best, but I enjoyed writing Temple Desecrated, The Sound of Guthix, Return of Lucien, Dangerous Logic, Fe Fi Fo Fum and more recently Ga'al.
Is there any artists you take inspiration from when creating your work, whether they are from popular culture and/or movie or tv composers? I'm a massive prog rock fan! Oh dear, the cat's out the bag...
There's so many influences but I'm quite heavily inspired by Steve Reich, Kow Otani (Shadow of the Colossus soundtrack) and My Bloody Valentine to name a couple, if I really thought about it the list would be massive haha.
Oh yeah - LOADS of inspiration from films, other games, musicians, cartoons, you name it! We do try and have our own style though - its important that RS has its own original music and not just copied from something else.
Do you have a tuba opening? Well that's a bit personal isn't it? Hahaha
Focus FTW. "in the hall of the king" - what an epic track, love the hand clapping :)
Where genre's of music do you guys/girls like the most? I like all genres. I had to write music in many styles because of my job which helped developed a love of a real mix of music. My passion from my youth is prog rock though :)
Genuinely i don't have a particular genre i like the most, but as a keen synth nerd i tend to lean towards electronica.
Hey Mod Bond, Mod Ian, Mod Adam R, Mod Mik and Mod Lord, I really enjoyed the audio on the world wakes quest! I wanted to download a couple of songs that are used in the quest but I couldn't find them on the download section on the runescape website? So where can I download the songs? Thanks! We're going to put the World Wakes soundtrack up on our soundcloud page soon Link to soundcloud.com
Hey there - really looking forward to RS3 :) 1) How many RS tracks are going to be rewritten for RS3, and how many new ones will we see? 2) Roughly what proportion of sound effects are going to be remade for RS3? Thanks for doing the AMAA - Jagex rocks :) We hope to write/rewrite over 100 music tracks for launch. We are improving sound effects all the time.
How did you get involved in that field? (Composing/writing for videogames?) Simply, applying to a job advert, but I have practiced music and music technology since I was a child.
Do any of you compose the soundtrack yourselves? Yes! We all have or do actively compose music for the game as well as outside help such as James Hannigan who recently composed a suite of orchestral tracks.
Yes, I have written a fair amount of music for RuneScape.
Yes you could say so - i think its probably well over 500 songs now...
What sound libraries do you guys use for choirs and brass? (Obviously not including the tracks with live recorded orchestras, :P). Hi there, we use tonehammer requiem and liberis, although these are still fairly new. Actually a lot of the choir pieces are "real" sung parts.
Brass is currently east west hollywood brass.
What kind of musical education, training, or conditioning do you have? Myself I studied music and sound art at university and have been working in audio since I was 16 by releasing music, working on commercials and game audio. I've always wanted to work in games :)
I'm self a taught keyboard player and have been dabbling with synths since i got my first one aged 15.
Awesome. Thanks so much! I was afraid it'd be the top end stuff (too expensive for me at the moment). :P But fantastic job with all of it; it all sounds amazing! It's hard to tell between the real and synthetic music (which I guess is the point, haha). There are other libraries that are good value for money like the garritan personal orchestra.
Ideally ALL the orchestral music would be played by live musicians, but that's a bit impractical really :)
Will you be trying to voice all dialogues in the game or only quests and new content? We have plans to voice older content when we have the time to look into this. at the moment we are busy reworking existing music and writing new music for RS3.
It would be great to voice the whole game eventually but there is a lot of it. We try and voice as much as possible. When we get the opportunity I'd like to go back and voice some older content. It would be great to voice a lot of the NPC's for more immerse incidental voices.
Do you guys think music will play a much bigger role in the atmosphere in the game with the higher quallity music? Yes, absolutely! There is much more to come as well...
Absolutely! we love to compliment the graphics and storylines in RS and having good quality for our audio has always been wanted, now we are lucky enough to have the technology to make tons of audio improvements :)
Hey guys! I always loved the Cave Song that played while in the Expiriment caves(100 hp per monster, great for training). Id click on a sheep/spider and play guitar along with the song. I literally learned it on electric with some sweet distortion and it sounded pretty awesome! Will you be keeping this old track? We are still deciding what songs to rework and what to keep - certainly there are lots of cave tunes that will stay.
Probably - do you mean the song "Mouse Trap"?
Oops, almost forgot. Are you writing soundtracks for the new skills? We are certainly going to do new sound effects, and have plans to keep on improving the existing sounds, not too sure about what music we will use yet though.
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2012.08.15 04:51 tabledresser [Table] IAMA Radio DJ

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Who picks what gets played? Especially when it comes to new songs. Does the next big "hit" get decided long before it's ever played? Some times I hear the "latest" from an artist and it's a total pile of crap. It ends up playing over and over. Eventually it does go away, how is that decision made? Record labels pick which songs are released as singles, that's what we get to play. As for who makes the decisions on what we play, that comes down the line from corporate. Before that, we would use music tests to find out what our listeners wanted to hear, and follow national trends. The radio industry is full of copycats.
This explains very well why I hear the same shit on the radio all the time. I wish they would go back to those music tests. We do too.
Has being a DJ ruined any songs for you? I imagine hearing a song repeatedly everyday during the week would take it's toll. Honestly the worst part about it is seeing how the industry is run. People don't pick popular music anymore, they're given it.
This is what I've often thought about the larger music industry; since acts are simply shipped to the masses arbitrarily, rather than based on what the people themselves asked for. Have there every been any cases of a wide disparity between what gets played and what gets requested? For me, yes, but that's typically because people request older songs, and we're a new music station.
Does this even extend to "specialty" shows? I'm not sure what you're asking...but based on how I read that yes. We have a prerecorded request show we air every weekend.
So you're regularly pumping out music that people aren't asking for? That seems absurd. At any given time, I have over 100k people listening, conservatively. I get maybe ten phone calls an hour if I'm not giving out prizes. Why let less than 1% dictate the music for all?
I'll use some examples from local stations. Alternative Rock Station has a DJ that does weekly metal show (different from their regular format) Adult Contemporary Station has a weekly "Next big thing- Indie and local show" Local Americana station (independent station) does weekly Cosmic Cowboy show. Are those programs (not standard programming) unable to pick the music or are they still issued specific programming guidelines? I don't know 100% because every station is different, especially locally owned ones, but my guess would be the music is all preselected, possibly a few requests that fit the show if it's a request hour.
If I may. Do you think that those ten callers are represenative of more than just themselves? ie: one person may login to walmart.com and give a great review of a product, but there were many more that use it, think its great, but are too lazy to say anything. No, because it's usually something like "so and so died can you play..", "man I haven't heard achy breaky heart in awhile, can you throw that in?" or a 12 year old that wants to hear Taylor swift. I understand where you're coming from and I used to think that too, until I started fielding the calls.
Are radio stations freaking out about Pandora/SlackeSpotify? EDIT: for proof, how about a pic of the swag closet? For the most part, no. They look at it as satellite radio again and we weathered that storm. They're more worried about the switch from arbitron to people meters for ratings. But it terrifies me, I use stitcher constantly.
What artist/song do you hate the most playing? Anything about Jesus, the soldiers, or 9/11.
I imagine that getting into being a DJ requires a fairly decent love of music, so I have to ask--how hard is it to play the crap we hear over the good stuff you love, but not many people have heard? It was hard at first, but now I just accept it. It helps that I work with a genre of music I'm not emotionally attached to also.
As someone who gets very emotional about music, I'd like to know if that's what got you into the radio industry? I got lucky, I knew people who worked at a radio station, started working there and fell in love. Up until that point I ha never even thought about it as an option.
Can you expand on what you mentioned before in terms of listeners choice/calling in requests that you mentioned in the other thread. What actually is going on? Is the playlist set for the day and how do day to do operations work? The playlist is preset day to day. The only time you can get requests in is during a request hour, and only about 3-5 songs in that hour are actual requests, depending on the station. Where I'm at, all of the request hours are handled by the pd, the head of the station.
Follow up: so when radio stations started putting "the last song they played" up on their websites, it's nothing new and exciting, they just reveal them one track at a time? It is exciting, because it doesn't just go by the computer system. If I have to run a song on a cd, it'll still show up on the "last previously played" thing. Well, I think that's cool at least.
So what do you do when you're in a bad mood. I have worked with radio DJ's in the past and they almost always seem to be in good mood. Just making jokes constantly. How do you stay happy? I listen to stand up when I'm on the air a lot to get the positivity going. Believe it or not, a lot of djs are actually pretty miserable.
Same with stand-up comedians. I'm actually a big fan of stand up, I always try to interview them when I can.
So is clear channel a bad, or a really bad employer? I've never worked there personally, but several of my coworkers have an they have nothing nice to say. In my experience, all corporate radio companies are pretty bad.
Do you play radio hits or underground stuff? where do you spin? I'm corporate radio, I don't want to say where so I can speak freely without fear of being fired.
Ahhh... what kind of music do you play? I play country music, and I'm a redditor...I really wish I was on a different format.
Do you ever dj for clubs in your free time? if so, do you like it? No, that's a completely different type of djing. Some of my coworkers do, and they love it more than radio, and you can make a killing, especially if you do both.
Did you just checkout the Reddit front page ? Scumbag Radio stations can you elabvorate why do they do that ? Yeah, it's that's what started this AMA. It's a business model. This happens on top 40 type stations the most. The thing is, most people want to hear the popular song, but they only listen for 15-20 minutes at a time on average, so the station is set up with that in mind. Meanwhile a lot of your classic rock stations that do have listeners that listen longer often times have no repeats all day.
Interesting.. may i ask , How do you get the license to broadcast the music, do you (the station) need a license to edit/broadcast a song ? how much do you have to pay the copyright owners ? how long does it take you to remix/adapt a song ? where do you get the transition tracks(i mean the short music between advertisements and programs ), do you guys do them in the station or get them somewhere else ? How long have you been working in the radio station full/part time, also are you a student, have a degree ? how's the pay ? We have to be licensed through the FCC, and we also have two pay 2 different unions for songwriters/artists, can't remember both of them but one is called ASCAP, and idk how much we pay, but it's a lot. I don't deal with remixes, that's usually for top 40 or hip hop stations. All we do is pitch the music up. We make all of our imaging in house, that's what we call what we play in between songs. I've worked in radio for five years, full time for 3, and the pay is crap so I'm going back to school.
How about the pay ? Insulting.
No problem dude. As a college radio dj, reading about life inside corporate radio bums me out hard. It's good to know that nobody really likes the way things are though. Hopefully the corporate assholes running the show will come to the light eventually. I doubt it. They're wall street, so they're always trying to boost revenue to boost stock prices, and streamline the process to have more control. One of the guys on our wildly successful morning show makes less than manual laborers.
What is your day to day schedule like? Standard 9 to 5 or weird working hours? Weird working hours. I work graveyard and spot fill in. I work like midnight-5am on the air during the week. I'll occasionally fill in for the morning show producer or for the board op on another one of our stations, but thanks to technology I can edit audio at home.
What is the overhead cost to run a radio station? What has the overall market trend been when it come to listener numbers over the past few years? Is this high expense and dwindling ears that drive the stations to play the same 5 songs over and over? Does this actually get them listeners? I don't have any idea how much it would cost to run a radio station, but actually we've been really successful where I'm at. The reason you hear the same song over and over again is because radio is all about the masses. People want to hear the popular song, so they play it a lot because they're trying to let everyone hear it, and most people don't listen to the types of station that has that kind of a set up unless they're at work.
What's the deal with "all request lunch" or any version of that title? Can you really play anything requested? No, you still pick and choose. I work at a new country station, so those are the requests I try to fill. You'll never get me to play billy ray Cyrus for you.
I've always had this feeling that oldies stations and classic rock stations play somewhat outside of the pop station rules, because they're dealing mostly with artists that are no longer putting out new music. Any idea if that is actually the case? Is there any more leeway there? That's part of it, but you're also dealing with a completely different type of listener. Top-40 stations have listeners that tune in in there car, or getting ready in the morning, and listen for much shorter periods of time. Meanwhile the older generation can sit and listen to the radio for hours on end.
Knowing what you know now, would you still be a DJ if you got a mulligan? That's a tough question. I love my job, I love the people I work with...but I left college for a high risk job with a low pay ceiling. As one of my coworkers puts it, working in radio is taking the vow of poverty. All things considered, no, I've gotten to do some once in a lifetime things that'll I'll never forget.
How did satellite radio change your job, if at all? It really hasn't, but I work for a very successful station with a dedicated listener base, that tends to be older and less tech savvy.
Hey mate, I'm currently doing my certificate in media and broadcasting and was wondering if you had any dos and don'ts for a young start out? Good relationships to build? industry knowledge? good habits to get into? Be nice to everybody, don't be mean to anybody. You have to be willing to work harder than anyone else, and be willing to work for free, because you probably will for the first year or so. And most importantly, never let anyone feel threatened by you, everyone in radio is incredibly insecure.
So one of our local stations has this thing they call 'Barrel of Monkeys' wherein listeners call in with a song request that starts with the letter the last song ended with. I have always suspected this to be a marketing ploy to increase listener loyalty and that the DJ just has a list of acceptable songs that start with certain letters and he just waits to get a caller who names one of those songs on the list. This gives the illusion that the listeners are choosing the songs when they really aren't at all. Am I at all accurate? Each station is different, but radio stations use actors all the time. They can also edit their voice to sound like someone else.
Another question, what do you think of low-power FM and pirate radio stations? Have you ever heard a pirate radio station in your area? I'm unfamiliar with jack fm stations like that, but no djs doesn't mean more music, it means more profit. Most of the time I'm only talking over song intros/outros.
EDIT: Have you heard of Jack FM? They seem to have a nationally syndicated common feed channel with no DJs and a bunch of transmitters scattered all across the US that are VERY poorly maintained as can be inferred from their regular blackouts, distorted transmissions, and poor reception at the fringes. They claim that because they have no DJs they can play more music but in reality they have just as much commercials if not more as normal radio stations. What do you think of such a radio station? I'm pro listening to you want, whether that be terrestrial radio, pirate radio, etc. when I'm listening to something for enjoyment, it's a podcast.
I'm only talking over song intros/outros. So you're one of those assholes. Why do DJs do this? You ruin the song when you talk about nothing while the music plays in the back. We do that so we don't have to stop the music. The theory is once the music stops people will change the station.
That's no reason to talk over the entire first minute of Baba O'Riley or the last three minutes of Layla. Why can't you just crossfade the songs? Because we have stuff we need to talk about. One way companies advertise is with live reads.
I think a stronger theory is that once the commercials start people will change the station. Live reads are easily recognizable as commercials. But if I talk about it over the first minute of baba o'reily, you don't change the station.
Have any good caller stories? One time I got a girl to come blow me while I was at work. Facebook has really changed the game in radio.
Do labels pay to have their artist's songs played on the radio? Of course not, that's highly illegal...whether or not it actually happens, idk, our music is decided by one guy at corporate.
While I agree that it's wrong, why is it illegal? Can you point us to any precedence? It's called payola, and it's against the law. There is also plugola, and that prevents trading goods for airtime. This extends to the jocks too, I can't plug dominoes if they give me free pizza.
What do you do when the song is on? Just listen, read a book, Reddit? Listen if it's new and I don't know it, otherwise I listen to podcasts or stand up to help me keep my energy/positivity high. Don't reddit too much though, imgur is blocked at work :/
Have you had to do anything that you truly regret doing at work? For example: a rigged contest or a canned interview you made people believe was live? (You tell me yours and I will tell you some of mine.) One time I didn't give the acid enough time to wear off.
Is everyone at your place crazy too? Especially production people. That's why I love my job, I'm accepted.
Why can't my favorite band, even if I call 100x a day to request it, get played? Because after you called back the 2nd time to complain about not hearing it yet we hate you.
I'm in sales and have always been intrigued by radio air sales. I've heard it's extremely cut throat but the pay can be absolutely killer. Can you comment on this? how to get into it, what the reps are like, etc? It's really easy to get into radio sales, and that's where all the money is, but it's mostly or all commission so it's all on you. A lot of cold calling, a lot of hitting the pavement...I don't really know to much about the day to day of sales, on air an sales are different breeds of people.
Great IAMA, btw. Thanks! This throwaway is already more popular than my real account in less than a day haha.
I've been working at a radio station for almost 2 years (Cumulus Portland, ME) and I'm finding corporate to be a big pain in the ass. They think that making all their stations pratically the same across the board is a good thing. Cumulus has replaced our best jocks/shows with syndicated crap (i.e. Perez Hilton). Why do you think corporate does stuff like that? You poor bastard, I've heard nothing good of cumulus.
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I would have to assume its a mixture of micromanaging and trying to maximize revenue. If they can make more money with lower ratings, they will.
What can you tell me about the audio file formats used in your on-air system? Are they MP3? If so, do you know the bit rate? And thanks for answering all these questions. Idk the bit rate, but we use PCM wav files.
I'm impressed! I thought for sure that stations owned by "the man" would use some low bit rate MP3s in order to maximize storage space. Just because it's run by the man doesn't necessarily mean the man knows what he's doing.
As someone who is planning on going into radio after they graduate, what do you suggest that I do so that I can get a leg up? I am doing internships, and I am doing the college radio station, but is there anything else. How competitive is the industry? Any mistakes that you have made that I can avoid? The industry is incredibly competitive, the best advice I can give you is to not go into it, but since that's a bummer, become very familiar with computers and editing audio. Get a copy of adobe audition if you can, it's a great program.
Do you ever listen to the radio yourself in your car or at home? Because to be honest I can't really do radio, the commercials and advertisements kill me, i bought a head unit a while ago that i plug my iPod into and have full control of it that way. The only time I listen is when I'm trying to improve by listening to other jocks. Other than that, no, I listen to podcasts. That's also helped me, I've been able to book guests I wouldn't have been able to otherwise.
Are you in a large or small market? Medium, haha.
Are segments ever prerecorded or is there always someone there? No radio is moving to more prerecorded stuff, jobs are being cut left and right.
Sounds sad, and weird. Like listening to a CD player that is not in the vicinity. I like the human element. It's hard to tell the difference between prerecorded and not anymore, that's the sad part.
What are your top ten most played songs? Link to m.billboard.com
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As a radio DJ can you tell me why ALL of you are so fucking annoying? Do you think people actually like to hear your retarded jokes? Also why do all of you have the most retarded "DJ" names? My boss gave me my dj name because my last name is a bitch to pronounce I'm with you, I don't think all that hoky dj stuff is funny, but it's really hard to be funny when you're censored by the FCC, the advertisers, the listeners, and the boss, but a lot of people think that stuff is hilarious.
How did you get this job? Do you have a degree in anything? No degree, got the job through luck and hard work. Degrees really don't help you in radio. That being said, I'm incredibly poor and going back to college.
The current state of terrestrial radio is dying a gruesome death and more people are moving to the internet. Hell, I haven't listened to over the air radio in months because it's the same garbage every single day. I have moved to online radio and couldn't be happier. I have a receiver at home with wi-fi and an aux jack in my car for my smart phone and the tunein app. People can only stomach the same shit everyday for so long. I for one can't and will not stomach it any longer. I estimate the current state of terrestrial radio will mostly dissipate within the next five to ten years. Especially with the deep financial trouble the big radio stations are in. They are in the red. How much longer do you give it? Again, it depends on each station. Mine is thriving and just had its best ratings since like 96, and we always do well. Terrestrial radios saving grace is it's ability to be involved in the community, and the ability to give out prizes. Internet radio can't get you front row seats or backstage at the local concerts.
I hate country music, but maintain that there might be at least a few good musicians in the genre. you said you're not a fan of country... anything you play that you DO like? It's not that I'm not a fan of country, I'd actually say country has some of the best musicians and vocalists in the business. My favorite mainstream band is the Zac Brown Band. Check I'm out, they're amazing.
How live are "live" morning shows? That depends. Local ones are live, syndicated ones are moved around. For instance one of our stations morning shows is syndicated, and we start it 2 hours late.
Just like how some/many McDonalds employees don't like eating McDonalds, outside of work do you enjoy listening to the music that you play at work despite hearing it many times? Yeah, I used to listen to country a lot, now I rarely listen to it outside of work, unless I'm in a different market.
So looking at all of this, it seems there's really no way to provoke change in the industry. What would you say are the major flaws of the industry? What would you do to change them, or what are some changes you'd like to see? If there would be a way to start change, how could we go about it? I'd like to see people get more involved with the industry with their dollar, that's the only way these guys at the head will correct their paths. The biggest problem with radio right now is the same problem with America, both are run by the same type of people.
I am a radio DJ at my school, and I love it. Our FM can only broadcast within 5 miles. But people can stream it online. I really love doing it too, it brings out my inner personality. I want to do cooler things with it in my station, but we don't have the equipment or the money for it. So my favorite radio station is Radio 104.1 WMRQ (Alternative) and they have a bunch of cool effects, like they have the recording that says in a deep voice RADIO 1041 WMRQ. I'm sure you know what I mean, but how do they do it? Do you have have it on your board as a button? Or is it all timed? I can re-word if you find this confusing. All of our imaging is preproduced and scheduled along with the music. In order to make a jingle like the one you're talking about, we would just make it using adobe audition using filters in the voice possibly, and adding all the little extra noises you hear.
Oh wow that's really cool! I've always wanted to visit my local radio stations to see what they are like. Does your station come up with creative DJ names? How do they decide? No, the formula is usually just 2 first names. My boss made mine in all of a minute.
What is your favourite artist(music)? What is your favourite album/ song? What is your favourite genre of music? I like a wide variety of rock and country, lately I've been into honeyhoney, I love there song back to you.
Is it common practice to speed up the playback of songs? I'm pretty sure I've noticed it on my local rock station. If so, what's the motivation? More time for advertising? I'm not sure, it could be because they think it improves sound quality. We pitch up all of our music.
We know you can't say which station/anonymity you are, but can you tell us who your favorite/least radio station personalities are? I used to love Adam Carolla before he went to the Internet, honestly it's hard for someone to be entertaining to me when you're under so much censorship. There are a lot of djs I don't like, but they're all local guys you've never heard of that have real issues with their tiny dicks.
How should a independent artist go about submitting music to radio? Get a record deal :/
99% of the music we're given goes directly into the garbage, the rest are saved to be mocked. The only exception is if your station has an unsigned segment, then you would need to get on there website and find out how to submit your stuff.
Thanks for the reply. My area has a local radio station (big market), and they do play a decent amount of unsigned artists. But what I've been hearing is that it's payola (like $350) a slot. Is there anything that could be done about this? Or should the artist give in to the "pay to play" mindset? Look into it, if it's payola make a complaint with the FCC, but they could just remove that segment entirely. It may not be payola though with legal jargon, there are ways around payola and plugola laws.
Any creepy callers? Having worked at a college radio station this was something we all got and shared the oh so lovely stories with each other. Oh yeah, the most disturbing is this mentally challenged woman that always calls up an wants to fuck me. It's gotten easier to avoid them since we have caller id, but too many people call on blocked numbers.
What the hell do you guys eat for breakfast? Coffee.
What radio station do you personally like? I really like fm4(an austrian radio station). They play a lot of different songs. I'm a big fan of comedy podcasts, the only time I listen to the radio is if it's a jock I like and want to learn from, or if I'm in another market.
Are the radio contest rigged? Also, please stop playing the same 10 songs everyday on repeat. None of ours are rigged, but I've heard stories of other stations rigging contests so they don't have to give a car or something like that away.
Maron? carolla? rogan? simmons? I'd love to have any of them on. I'm going to try and get rogan, but I doubt it. Fingers crossed tho, deathsquad for life haha. I have had coco on.
How can one get into the radio market? Go in and apply to be a promotions assistant, that's what I did, from there I just busted my ass to work my way up.
Alright, appreciate that! How long was the rise for you?! Also, are you a radio DJ like Scratchy scratchy or do you just talk and push buttons for songs. Radio nowadays is all run with a computer and soundboard, no scratching for me. It took me about a year and a half to get on the air, then from there I slowly worked my way up as others moved on.
Thanks for the response. How much is the pay if you don't mind me asking. you can give a range as well. Pays about the same as fast food at first, but if you make it up the ranks you can have a decent salary. It also depends on your market. Pretty shitty benefits.
What's the one song that you were forced to so thoroughly overplay, that you'd take a kick to the nuts before having to listen to it again? Red solo cup.
Have you had any awkward moments when you're doing a live show? Yeah, there are times where I'll stumble on my words or stutter and I hate myself for it. There were a couple of times I accidentally left the r off of country and was afraid I might get fined.
I can imagine how nerve-racking it must be! Kudos to you for sticking with it :) My boyfriend works for our local radio station and he tells me people call in complaining about the silliest things, like when he made fun of Colin Farrell's acting. Someone got like really upset! Ever get some weird complaints? All the time. We aren't nice enough. We didn't play there song. They met us in person and we weren't smiling constantly or totally focused on them. I'm pretty complaint free, but I have a second job as a server and I get treated better by the customers there than I do by the listeners a lot of the time.
"WNBC" -- How do you say it: "Double-You EN Bee SEE" or "Double-You ENNNNN Bee SEE?" :) Say it like it sounds, I'm not a puker :)
Whats up with the radio all of a sudden playing 'Lights' by Ellie Goulding? It is like two years old! I'm unfamiliar with the song, but it might be a song that didn't take off before so it was rereleased. For instance, Chris young is a country musician and he released a song called voices that didn't get much traction on the charts. After he had a couple of hits under his belt, he rereleased voices a couple of years later and became a number 1 on the country billboard.
Are you terrestrial or satellite DJ? And your thoughts on the future of them. I'm terrestrial, and I think that terrestrial is dying slowly. I don't know much about the finances of satellite radio, but I think the Internet will kill them both in the end...but then again, that's what everyone said about satellite radio when it started. The idea that terrestrial radio is dying isn't one held by many in the industry though.
Why don't you play any alex day? When we looked him up on Wikipedia he was wearing a Twilight shirt :) We only play country music.
Proof? How can I contact the mods? I've been way to honest to post who I am.
Just PM them by clicking on the link in the sidebar. -> Sent them a message.
What's your shoe size? 15 W.
I'm an assistant program director, production manager, and radio DJ myself. You may have already answered this, but what kind of station is it that you're working for? Country.
Thank you for taking this AMA on from our discussion on the radio DJ meme. I think there was a good amount of interest and I'm glad it's working out! Me too, I'd thought about doing one for awhile but in my experience posting on reddit just leads to sadness.
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